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Post by Antohammer on May 27, 2019 0:51:35 GMT -9
The coloured mini looks good; I especially like the shading away of the darker colours up the limbs. However, she seems more like an ice demon to me; reds and purples speak more of lust. Blue - which looks good here certainly - is a colder tone. The five line drawing poses are interesting, though it's hard to judge without knowing what weapons or items they may be holding/using in the final stage. Poses 1 and 5 are perhaps a bit too similar is all I'd say for now. MY BELOVED WYVERN I HAVE TO SAY THANYOU EVERY TIME !!!! so in your opinion i should use a different tone for the skin???.... i ll give it a try!!!! for the other demonettes i was thinking about 3 type of weapons.... one with whip .... i dont know if long or short ... i will make a bit of tests the second group with javelins made of a demonic material.... (demonic bones? i dont know yet) so that i can make ranged units and the 3rd group with double curved knives.... i was even thinking of making them bare handed with hands covered in blood... would it be interesting? about poses.... you are right ... i need something more sinuous.... i ll work on it!!!! thankyou
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Post by Antohammer on May 27, 2019 2:32:02 GMT -9
wyvern .... let me know wich one is better I even completed the first two unit for the undead ks.... take a look to the necromancer and the first of his aberrations!!!!! I m planning to make the base box of the undead composed by: 1 necromancer 4 skeletons with spears 4 skeletons with bows 1 animated corpse (the thing in the image) then i will make a lot of stretch goals!!! i was thinking to make: golem made of bones golem made of graveyard pieces, stones, hearth and bones... golem made of flesh and body parts more skeletons with swords skeletons with crosbows human cultist/acolytes with swords human cultist/acolytes with magical staf comand set for the skeletons skeletons mounted on skeleton horse zombie ghouls skeleton dragons zombie dragons and a lot more ideas!!!! if you have suggetions and reqeusts just tell me
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Post by wyvern on May 27, 2019 5:16:32 GMT -9
Both the demon colourings look good, but they don't really have the warmth/heat I'd expect for creatures representing lust. Thinking more of reds, red-purple or darker red-pinks in general. To me, they both would work well as ice or frost demons from their blue to blue-purple coloration, though I think it's partly also their weapons which suggest that - too spiky and sharp (= "cold") for "lust". Maybe a whip or a flail (a multi-thonged whip) would work better, as your earlier posting indicted, or a staff, and also more curving, rounded weapons overall - maybe even a curved throwing/missile weapon (like a boomerang/throw-stick; images on the Wikipedia Boomerang page might give you some ideas for possible forms). The Slaanesh seem to have pincer-like hands, so something like that might be practical for these as bloody-handed demons too. Maybe just increase the size of their fingernails as claws for that? For the undead, the necromancer looks really good; the ghostly glow over his robe, staff and hands is really atmospheric. The aberration is OK, but I can't work out if the red rags are torn clothing or meant as flesh instead. Plus he seems more likely to just fall over than try to attack anyone. Maybe needs at least one other limb as support? Or maybe ghostly wings instead? The lists of KS undead seem fine, but don't forget the vampires you already showed samples of. Skeleton warriors in a bone-made chariot drawn by skeleton horses might be interesting for a larger set-piece model (maybe the commanding necromancer's vehicle, say). And maybe some flyers - ordinary or skeletal bats or crows, perhaps.
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Post by Antohammer on May 27, 2019 10:23:59 GMT -9
Both the demon colourings look good, but they don't really have the warmth/heat I'd expect for creatures representing lust. Thinking more of reds, red-purple or darker red-pinks in general. To me, they both would work well as ice or frost demons from their blue to blue-purple coloration, though I think it's partly also their weapons which suggest that - too spiky and sharp (= "cold") for "lust". Maybe a whip or a flail (a multi-thonged whip) would work better, as your earlier posting indicted, or a staff, and also more curving, rounded weapons overall - maybe even a curved throwing/missile weapon (like a boomerang/throw-stick; images on the Wikipedia Boomerang page might give you some ideas for possible forms). ..... mmm maybe you are right...reddish.... i will give a try !!! about the weapon i was planning a group of helabard demonette.... are them no good on your opinion? i will try tomorrow to make a flail test!!!! Longer nails is a good suggestion too.... I wanted to avoid pincers.... too mainstream on my opinion ^^ about the boomerang idea..... I was thinking about a sort of big demonic shuriken.... Is it interesting?? ^^ ... The aberration is OK, but I can't work out if the red rags are torn clothing or meant as flesh instead. Plus he seems more likely to just fall over than try to attack anyone. Maybe needs at least one other limb as support? Or maybe ghostly wings instead? ... damn you are right again and again....the red thing is a torn mantle... i will try to make it the same purpleblue of the necromacer... this way he should be better about an extra limb.... I dont know.... i wanted him to be a sort of undead giant .... something like this bad guy from darksouls www.deviantart.com/yare-yare-dong/art/Dragonslayer-Ornstein-573002138 he is a dragon slayer.... he s bigger than normal man.... but i think that he s similar to a man.... anyway........ so ... i dont like the extra limb idea ^^ .... ... The lists of KS undead seem fine, but don't forget the vampires you already showed samples of. Skeleton warriors in a bone-made chariot drawn by skeleton horses might be interesting for a larger set-piece model (maybe the commanding necromancer's vehicle, say). And maybe some flyers - ordinary or skeletal bats or crows, perhaps the idea of a bone war charriot is nice !!!! maybe a bone elephant too!!!! ^^ .... here instead another concept for the lust demon army.... THE F**** ARCHDEMON OF LUST!!! ^^ She is a normal demonette fused with a I-dont-know-what demon half serpentine below with the back full of tentacle like in a hentai !!!! She uses the tentacle to "hide" hot bodyparts and to throw demonic javelins.... i was thinking to make a 18+ variant too :3 eh eh eh :3 let me know what you think about her .... i dont have nothing more for today goodnight ^^
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Post by Antohammer on May 28, 2019 2:50:47 GMT -9
I DID other two color variants for the demonette... but i think i will stick to number 2 from left.... or is better the 4th???
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Post by Antohammer on May 28, 2019 6:29:34 GMT -9
HI GUYS a work in progress of the graveyard golem!!!!! i hope you will like him!!! he will be the tank of the fantasy undead faction!!!! get rady !!!
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Post by Rhannon on May 28, 2019 8:21:41 GMT -9
Honestly, still many beautiful figures. But the worst ( personal tastes, no offense) is the demonette imho.
I don't really like unnecessary nudity, unrealistic armor and clothes ... and magical pony colors. Above all, I don't like yhe fairy robe.
Instead I love the three big guys. Truly original and well made.
But I know for sure that you want to know what I don't like. ;-)
So let's go back to the little demon
Perhaps the last two colors, but they must be worse and brighter and dirty. Take that prostitute nightgown off
and make him a beautiful but bad face, not a dazed Japanese manga character face.
Sorry buddy but this is just my opinion.
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Post by Antohammer on May 28, 2019 9:17:31 GMT -9
Honestly, still many beautiful figures. But the worst ( personal tastes, no offense) is the demonette imho. I don't really like unnecessary nudity, unrealistic armor and clothes ... and magical pony colors. Above all, I don't like yhe fairy robe. Instead I love the three big guys. Truly original and well made. But I know for sure that you want to know what I don't like. ;-) So let's go back to the little demon Perhaps the last two colors, but they must be worse and brighter and dirty. Take that prostitute nightgown off and make him a beautiful but bad face, not a dazed Japanese manga character face. Sorry buddy but this is just my opinion. giorgio!!!! thankyou suggestions and complains are always wellcome ...I take note that i cannot sell you jappa hentai content ;P other suggestions?
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Post by wyvern on May 28, 2019 13:17:29 GMT -9
The Demonette halberd is OK, but maybe a bit too spiky at the weapon head. Perhaps giving the handle a double curve would help? The throwing shuriken sounds interesting. Some of the modern boomerang images on that Wikipedia page I linked-to were of a similar multi-armed form as well. Yeah, the extra limb on the half-giant undead didn't altogether appeal to me either. Later, I wondered about using a long cloak or trailing robe instead, so you can't see exactly what's supporting it, maybe something like the classic Mast Beast: [Image is from this webpage.] The Archdemon looks good. The mix of forms and weapons is excellent, I think. Will there be a second fang-toothed mouth in the other palm? For the recoloured Demonettes, like Rhannon , I prefer the two right-hand versions better for the lust demons. Overall, the colours could benefit from being more substantial in places - like over the hair (or is it head horns/tentacles?) - so for that version 3 works better to me. However, I disagree with others of his points. These are meant as lust demons, so nudity is pretty much obligatory, given that the folktales which feature similar creatures frequently use alluring or impractical clothing (or the lack thereof), hairstyles, physical attributes and so forth, which often don't make sense in the strict context; they work because the creatures use them to alter the reality their victims perceive. They're not after all common physical warriors - so armour makes no sense, and their weapons needn't appear wholly realistic either (partly hence my earlier comments about more sensuously curving weapon types). I also think the faces work well just as they are, and don't really see them as manga-style at all, given the eyes are correctly proportioned, for instance. Like the Graveyard Golem! He could maybe use some eyes though - maybe two skulls in the appropriate places with glowing eye sockets for those? Or perhaps just a pair of will o'wisp type round glows in the right places?
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Post by Antohammer on May 29, 2019 10:01:20 GMT -9
wyvern thankyou man !!!! i will add a mouth in the other hand too on the archdemon!!!! the graveyard golem i added a light glowing in the eyes tomorrow i will print him and show you guys the final result .... i did a new demonette with a flail.... here she s i used the 4th color scheme... but i dont know... the first color scheme looked better.... 4th not bad.... anyway.... the 3rd looks to much dark to mee... i think that when printed it will not look good.... anyway..... i was thinking to make demonette fully naked.... is it sensed??? or should I make both... fully naked and dressed only to cover hot parts? .... i wait your reply guys :3 Rhannon what do you think??? do you want some special demonettes??? May I corrupt you? :3 :3
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Post by wyvern on May 29, 2019 13:03:07 GMT -9
The whip looks good. Maybe adjust the positioning slightly as it could look like it's a tail, with an oddly-curved hand weapon impaling her head just now (not so obvious in close-up, but at the usual mini scale-size, this won't be so clear).
I think the 3rd colour scheme would be fine when printed out, as all four colour schemes are quite light overall, and the outline and detail lines are relatively few and clear too.
I know nudity in any form is a problem for some of the CWF regulars, and is naturally a concern where younger folks may be involved, though apparently, it's fine to expose them to any amount of gore, violence, horror or killing (a dichotomy I've never understood, given one is perfectly natural, the other most definitely isn't!). Personally, as long as naked minis make sense in their context, I've no problem with that, and as I've noted, this is a case where that can be expected. However, there's no harm in offering both options for those who may find that unwelcome.
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Post by Rhannon on May 29, 2019 14:17:33 GMT -9
No thanks. I don't like other demonettes. ;-) I don't like them very much, sorry. I have nothing against nudity. Rather. Although I think it should be put under spoiler, just because this forum can be viewed by kids.
But I am not a kid, so my problem is not this. Instead the lack of realism and logic bothers me. An armed figure who is preparing to fight, whoever he is, does not go to war with stiletto heels, bikini or negligee ... it needs scales, thick fur or an armor, imho.
A demonic face. You need a demonic face. I still haven't figured out why they always smile and what those things are over their heads. tentacles? Better horns in my opinion. So they make too much parody of star wars.
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Post by Rhannon on May 29, 2019 14:18:36 GMT -9
PS: of course you can bribe me. With chocolate or with FIW figures.
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Post by Antohammer on May 29, 2019 22:39:38 GMT -9
wyvern thankyou man i will repositionate it !!! i hope tomorrow to make some test print if works allow me the time.... i think the same about nudity and gore.... in real life i m an undertaker.... so i see every time that in real life death must be hidden but on tv you can see tons of brutal death... you can find video online ... and sometimes i think that those things makes no sense... I even understand what Rhannon say.... as italian ... here nudity is treated a lot as taboo... then you can see halfnaked girls on tv on gossip channels... but... well dont spend time discussing theese matters guys lets have fun in the name of the god of lust!!!! here i made a concept for the male cultist... as wyvern asked :3 :3 :3 they are lust demon slaves.... i dont know if they are willing or noth to fight but well here they are they will be more classical equipped shields, swords, spears, helbards, but they will wear light or nothing armour ah i forgot.... those things on demonette heads are tentacle... they have3... :3 ....who knows what they use them for... and rhannon sure!!!! I will bribe you... if lust dont work then .....french indian war? something in particoular? or do you need an entire set? (damn my todolist is becoming noending)
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Post by wyvern on May 30, 2019 4:43:37 GMT -9
The male cultist is interesting, but there's no strong reason why they should be slaves. However, as this one is, a more submissive pose might be more appropriate, perhaps one holding the halberd upright, and standing more like a guard. I like the bleeding, spiked rings, but one round the arm, which would weaken it for combat use, is maybe not so useful. Perhaps fit it round the neck instead?
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Post by Antohammer on May 30, 2019 5:42:13 GMT -9
wyvern :3 eh eh :3 ... i was thinking them as the SLAVES OF LUST ... that s why i said slave.... maybe cultist is better... anyway... about the spike rings... nice suggestion... maybe without helmet and with the spike ring around the neck instead is a nice idea!!! anyway this pose is becouse he hurt himself for pleasure.... I M LOOSING CONTROL OF THIS THREAD... SO... ...to avoid causing problem posting NSFW stuff here i will CENSOR myself.... ....I will focus on undeads... becouse with a pile of bones there will be no boner !!!!! .... (stupid joke sorry)..... the golem is complete!!!!! (damn i glued him crooked !!!!! ARGH!!!!... ) pavaro eheheheh the undead army is taking shape wyvern i added a light in the skull next i will make the skeletons.... If I keep up drawing at this speed i think i will launche the undead kickstater soon.... i dont know if it will before or after the ww2 kickstarter... anyway ... stay tuned guys
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Post by wyvern on May 31, 2019 4:20:31 GMT -9
The golem looks good. Probably too late, but perhaps the skull with the glowing eyes could be more prominent, or larger? And a different base, with maybe small pieces of debris as if just fallen from the golem might be an interesting extra? The plain grass base as shown looks a bit too clean!
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Post by Antohammer on Jun 1, 2019 7:37:37 GMT -9
The golem looks good. Probably too late, but perhaps the skull with the glowing eyes could be more prominent, or larger? And a different base, with maybe small pieces of debris as if just fallen from the golem might be an interesting extra? The plain grass base as shown looks a bit too clean! eh eh :3 i was already doing something like that :D this is the visualization of the concept :D i will make a lot of little decorations that can be folded and glued to the base this way you can personalize your miniature with tombstones, graves, dead rising from below and a lot of other things like rocks bushes and whatever you want :D i hope to complete some tomorrow :D after that i show you the ship i was working on :D it s still a work in progress but i hope you will like it :D :D
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Post by Antohammer on Jun 1, 2019 10:16:21 GMT -9
this instead is another concept an army of super deformed animals that fight a war... a farm war!!!! the faction fighting for supremacy are pigs fox hamsters horses and others!!!! this is going to be a tactical game where you assemble your squad of five animal and then fight a serie of battle in a campaign to take controll of the farm!!! in a ww1 looking style and super deformed!!!!!
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Post by ignatious on Jun 2, 2019 0:24:18 GMT -9
This just made me think of animal farm, and maus
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Post by Antohammer on Jun 2, 2019 0:48:07 GMT -9
This just made me think of animal farm, and maus the idea comed out from hogs of war ps1 game it popped up on steam and made me feel nostalgic!!!! so it becomed a farm wars
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Post by wyvern on Jun 2, 2019 4:20:36 GMT -9
Like the monster with the larger base and add-ons! You realise we're also now going to need some skeletons and/or ghosts in the act of rising from their graves as well?
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Post by pavaro on Jun 2, 2019 10:55:56 GMT -9
this instead is another concept an army of super deformed animals that fight a war... a farm war!!!! the faction fighting for supremacy are pigs fox hamsters horses and others!!!! this is going to be a tactical game where you assemble your squad of five animal and then fight a serie of battle in a campaign to take controll of the farm!!! in a ww1 looking style and super deformed!!!!! Any form that presents ww1 is great!
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Post by Rhannon on Jun 2, 2019 11:20:46 GMT -9
this instead is another concept an army of super deformed animals that fight a war... a farm war!!!! the faction fighting for supremacy are pigs fox hamsters horses and others!!!! this is going to be a tactical game where you assemble your squad of five animal and then fight a serie of battle in a campaign to take controll of the farm!!! in a ww1 looking style and super deformed!!!!! Any form that presents ww1 is great! Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also your WW1 figures. ;-) But you don't share them from a long time. ;-)
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Post by pavaro on Jun 3, 2019 9:13:46 GMT -9
Any form that presents ww1 is great! Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also your WW1 figures. ;-) But you don't share them from a long time. ;-) I have very little free time. I design one-sided figurines. They will not be accepted here on this the forum.
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Post by Rhannon on Jun 3, 2019 9:29:43 GMT -9
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also your WW1 figures. ;-) But you don't share them from a long time. ;-) I have very little free time. I design one-sided figurines. They will not be accepted here on this the forum. 1 - I talk about your old paper soldiers not about your potential new production, so time doesn't matter. You have already drawn them several years ago. Precisely I'm talking about WW1 French and German. probably more than one series. now I don't remember well. But they have front and back. 2 - About one-sided figurines ... are they not accepted here? I don't think there are prohibitions. There are many personal preferences that, with new figures, prefer two sides. But they are precisely personal preferences and not prohibitions. Nothing can prevent the author from expressing himself as he prefers. In many countries the old paper soldiers had only one side. Even today, several authors of paper minis produce figures with only one side.
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Post by pavaro on Jun 3, 2019 11:26:13 GMT -9
1 - I talk about your old paper soldiers not about your potential new production, so time doesn't matter. You have already drawn them several years ago. Precisely I'm talking about WW1 French and German. probably more than one series. now I don't remember well. But they have front and back. 2 - About one-sided figurines ... are they not accepted here? I don't think there are prohibitions. There are many personal preferences that, with new figures, prefer two sides. But they are precisely personal preferences and not prohibitions. Nothing can prevent the author from expressing himself as he prefers. In many countries the old paper soldiers had only one side. Even today, several authors of paper minis produce figures with only one side. I said that because once someone on the forum said that paper figures are only two-sided. One-sided figures are only graphics.
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Post by Antohammer on Jun 4, 2019 22:58:07 GMT -9
sorry guys .... i had a noend weekend of work... then started the week with a lot of work and only now i have e bit of free time... :D wyvern sure man dead rising from the graves a lot of them !!!! :D Rhannon thankyou man i agree on what you wrote... so pavaro cmon!!!! we wait your miniatures :D
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Post by Antohammer on Jun 9, 2019 2:00:06 GMT -9
luckyly this week of noending work is over.... .... kck.st/2Zh83M4And here is the new ks for the undeads!
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Post by cowboyleland on Jun 9, 2019 8:37:07 GMT -9
Image is broken for me.
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