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Post by Antohammer on May 19, 2019 3:27:23 GMT -9
Hi guys !!! as I told you in the previous thread I m going to start a new Ks. this time I m going to start a historical line to play ww2!!! this new ks will begin in a week or two. I will start from the invasion of poland and then go on till the end of the war... this objective will require years if not a decade... anyway I hope you will join me in this adventure!!! I plan to make the miniatures in a standard 28mm scale but then resize them in 1/72 and 1/100(15mm) i did a test and you will find it in another thread... to me the result is quite good!!! This is a wip concept for the basic stuff that will be on Ks.... remember that the miniature will be relased after the ks on DRIVETHRURPG at an higher price. If you join the ks you will be able to save a lot of money!!!
this is a concept ... the final result will variate.... expecially.. I will ad countryside elements in order to have a simple terrain for the game. anyway .... i will provide you as always a version of my generic square grid wargame, this time focused on ww2 warfare. I m planning to do accessories, terrain and decorations too!!! So if you have suggestions, ideas, complains please write them to me!!! I will be very happy in the stretch goals you will find tanks, cars, vehicle, at guns, artillery pieces, more infantry, mortars, tankette, 2d aircraft and a lot more!!!! I was planning to make modular buildings for the major towns or cityes!!! I was thinking to add later on a campaign map, so you can move troops on the campaign map and then fight on the ground!!!! ... nothing of super elaborate obviously but enought to start your ww2 campaign.... this means in the future i will provide warships too (in smaller scale obviously) this will be my most TITANICAL LIFE WORK!!! so... join me in this campaign!!!! the operations are going to start soon!!!!
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Post by alloydog on May 19, 2019 7:29:10 GMT -9
I'm interested - though my main WWII theatre of ops is, at the moment the battle for Stalingrad. Where can i see the Kickstarter details?
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Post by Antohammer on May 19, 2019 9:33:26 GMT -9
hi alloydog !!! i m very happy that you like it !!! the kickstarter is not ready yet ... i will launch it in 1 week (i hope) the stalingrad battle is a bit far away at the moment but .... well... in the initial set you will find polish and germans, immediately after there will be the soviets for the estern poland invasion.... so if the ks goes well you will be able to have a part of the necessary units My plan is to make units following the timeline... but a set or two not in the timeline can be done too
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Post by emergencyoverride on May 19, 2019 10:49:37 GMT -9
Cant wait! This will be awesome!
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Post by alloydog on May 19, 2019 10:56:16 GMT -9
No worries, no hurries. My project progress speeds are less like lightning and more like glacial... My FoW Stalingrad farm buildings have stalled while I have a build boost for my BnPSM figures.
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Post by Antohammer on May 20, 2019 9:56:55 GMT -9
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Post by emergencyoverride on May 20, 2019 11:50:09 GMT -9
Those are awesome! I especially like the perspective angles on the vehicles. I cant wait for the kickstarter.
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Post by Antohammer on May 21, 2019 10:33:21 GMT -9
Those are awesome! I especially like the perspective angles on the vehicles. I cant wait for the kickstarter. THANKYOU A LOT MAN !!!! today i had a lot of reallife work but i completed the fron of the first german
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Post by Antohammer on Jun 10, 2019 7:06:05 GMT -9
emergencyoverride hey bro here is the stuka it s not final and i ve not yet assemled him ... I m not sure about the final result but... anyway... this s the 2.5 D concept for the upcoming aircrafts!!! it can be scaled to smaller size for other games... but i dont suggest smaller than 1:100 www.dropbox.com/s/hujwpyym7gnxtq1/STUKA%20STAMPA.pdf?dl=0follow dropbox link to download the pdf version of 28mm and 15mm scale aircraft!!! this stuka is an example of how i want to make aircrafts... I wait your considerations :D the ww2 ks is going to slip to the 1st of september, this way i have more time to complete miniatures for the campaign launch.....
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 10, 2019 8:34:53 GMT -9
Could be an interesting build
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Post by emergencyoverride on Jun 10, 2019 10:12:48 GMT -9
That looks awesome!! I'll download it and give it a go!
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Post by wyvern on Jun 10, 2019 12:23:50 GMT -9
The Stuka looks good.
I can see there may be construction problems, however, as the wing tabs (and also those for the tail fins) will extend through the aircraft and then overlap each other on opposite sides of the aircraft body, so the wings (& tail fins) will not be entirely level with one another, and part of the tabs will also still be visible. This could work if the aircraft fuselage was made of foamcore, but of course that brings its own problems - would it need a printed strip to conceal the foamcore edge, for example? It could be solved using the current design by making the tabs interlock, and showing the relevant parts of the wing detail on the tabs.
The cutting guides for locating the wings and tail fins need to be much clearer, and guides for the undercarriage locations and bomb need adding too. I'm assuming just the single main, centrally-mounted, bomb is intended in this prototype, as the underwing bomb sets were generally lighter/smaller. If so, the bomb should probably slot between the two fuselage side pieces however, which could cause a further complication for the wing construction, as the bomb's locating tab will overlap the wing-root tabs as well, as currently laid out. So maybe the bomb should be drawn as part of the aircraft fuselage instead?
There's too much fine detail extending away from the aircraft right now. The strung wire aerial (but not the main antenna extending straight up from the canopy) needs to go, as do the objects extending from the front of the wings. They just won't survive even light handling in gaming use, if they actually get through the construction process. Everything else should be OK though, I think.
Good time to get the design right, as it'll be easy to switch colour schemes for the various theatres, and the variant aircraft types after the "B" series, if this works properly now, of course!
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Post by Antohammer on Jun 10, 2019 21:26:30 GMT -9
The Stuka looks good. I can see there may be construction problems, however, as the wing tabs (and also those for the tail fins) will extend through the aircraft and then overlap each other on opposite sides of the aircraft body, so the wings (& tail fins) will not be entirely level with one another, and part of the tabs will also still be visible. This could work if the aircraft fuselage was made of foamcore, but of course that brings its own problems - would it need a printed strip to conceal the foamcore edge, for example? It could be solved using the current design by making the tabs interlock, and showing the relevant parts of the wing detail on the tabs. The cutting guides for locating the wings and tail fins need to be much clearer, and guides for the undercarriage locations and bomb need adding too. I'm assuming just the single main, centrally-mounted, bomb is intended in this prototype, as the underwing bomb sets were generally lighter/smaller. If so, the bomb should probably slot between the two fuselage side pieces however, which could cause a further complication for the wing construction, as the bomb's locating tab will overlap the wing-root tabs as well, as currently laid out. So maybe the bomb should be drawn as part of the aircraft fuselage instead? There's too much fine detail extending away from the aircraft right now. The strung wire aerial (but not the main antenna extending straight up from the canopy) needs to go, as do the objects extending from the front of the wings. They just won't survive even light handling in gaming use, if they actually get through the construction process. Everything else should be OK though, I think. Good time to get the design right, as it'll be easy to switch colour schemes for the various theatres, and the variant aircraft types after the "B" series, if this works properly now, of course! good suggestions bro.... as always..... so i will add details on the tabs... I understand what you say about the foam core.... it eventually can become a solution, i can use tick cardboard too... but i will try to mantain it as flat as possible. cutting guide is still a very work in progress... in the final relase i will add an assembly guide.... :D i will cut the wire and the wings decorations.. about bombs... i dont know... i liked the idea of having them separate piece... this way you could make dioramas of the aircraft on ground ... i was planning to draw luftwaffe ground crew... i could make the main bomb as part of the wings? this way the under tabs will join and dont overlap... is it sensed? anyway i will try to assemble one before going back to workbence ... to see if other mistakes comes out :D about colors .... i made a layered save with paint.net .... this way i can change colors in a super easy way !!!! :D so if you want special camo or colors you only have to ask !!!! :D more colors will be obviously part of the stretch goals when the ks launch : D wyvern :D thankyou :D
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Post by Antohammer on Jun 11, 2019 5:40:59 GMT -9
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Post by wyvern on Jun 11, 2019 12:45:30 GMT -9
Ah, I see I misunderstood how the wing and tail fin tabs could be applied. I assumed they were meant to slot through the aircraft fuselage. It will make it much easier just to fold them up to glue to the outside of the fuselage, of course. When the tab detail is set up to match where they are to be glued, that will also make the assembly that much easier. Similarly, the bomb will be fine too once the tab decoration matches the aircraft underside.
I don't really like the idea of having to use foamcore with models like this, because it adds quite a bit of extra work in the construction - including needing more artwork for the thick foamcore edge - whereas the models are meant to be really more straightforward and elegant, I would say. Getting the gull wings to look right on the finished Stuka is probably going to be the greatest problem... (It always is on even the cast plastic models!).
There are various camouflage scheme options of course. The early war period in Europe should be mostly the usual two-tone green splinter pattern, but to me, the various desert camouflage schemes always look more interesting.
I did spot something that needs changing thanks to your new photo set. The swastika on the right side of the tailplane is mirrored. It should have the arms pointing clockwise on both sides of the fin.
The made-up model does look good though!
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Post by emergencyoverride on Jun 11, 2019 20:02:35 GMT -9
I loved the build. I adjusted the underwing tab like you guys said because of the overlap and the build went great! Ill post a pic after work tomorrow. Adjusting the tabs, tab colors and swastika and it should be just right!
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Post by Antohammer on Jun 11, 2019 22:21:37 GMT -9
emergencyoverride thankyou man i wait to see it i assembled the 15mm one becouse i was scared to waste paper and ink... but the result is good!!! buti suggest to print on rigid paper... i used the normal one (I have to buy the thich one) and the result is not rigid enought wyvern you are right as always!!!! i will fix them!!! thankyou originally i thought to assembly them as you said... but it becomes a very long process... adding dettails on the tabs will be faster and the result is good too... about color scheme... dont worry i will make them !!!!!! I have now to think how to make a support stand!!! the one that i showed is not attached to my room shelf with a wire ... ahahahah i like it!!!! tomorrow i will upload the fixed version
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Post by Antohammer on Jun 12, 2019 11:39:00 GMT -9
sorry guys i wanted to show you it in my room i think i will append more!!!! i already ear my mother screaming about the mess of my room!!!!! ahahahahah
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Post by Antohammer on Jun 14, 2019 12:21:14 GMT -9
THE WORK IN PROGRESS of the cr 42 fiat falco !!!! i dont know if it works... hopefully tomorrow i will give color to it... then try to assemble it so stay tuned guys
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Post by wyvern on Jun 15, 2019 11:45:56 GMT -9
An important test-piece certainly, given the number of biplanes that flew in combat especially in the early years of World War Two, though the German Henschel HS 123 dive-bomber continued in combat service until 1944, I think, despite the fact construction of it ended in 1940, as it was such a reliable and robust machine.
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Post by Antohammer on Jun 17, 2019 3:19:26 GMT -9
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Post by bigbrownbear on Jun 18, 2019 23:28:12 GMT -9
I love it and we should chat properly again - will message you! In the meantime, here's my Heinkel - albeit it's on wood rather than paper!
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Post by Antohammer on Jun 19, 2019 22:30:16 GMT -9
I love it and we should chat properly again - will message you! In the meantime, here's my Heinkel - albeit it's on wood rather than paper! very nice they are!!!! wood gives u a lot challenges too!!! on stukas for example... how do you do the fold on wings? o.O they are great anyway!!! expecially the engine part!!!!
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Post by Antohammer on Jun 20, 2019 5:55:59 GMT -9
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Post by bigbrownbear on Jun 20, 2019 9:45:38 GMT -9
I love it and we should chat properly again - will message you! In the meantime, here's my Heinkel - albeit it's on wood rather than paper! very nice they are!!!! wood gives u a lot challenges too!!! on stukas for example... how do you do the fold on wings? o.O they are great anyway!!! expecially the engine part!!!! For angles you need to make a bracing piece that goes under the wings and allow for the width of the wood when making the insert - a bit of Pythagoras. This does mean that you have an extra piece but it only has to be 1mm or so in width
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 20, 2019 10:04:04 GMT -9
And featured in the OBS newsletter this week!
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Post by Antohammer on Jun 20, 2019 11:03:41 GMT -9
very nice they are!!!! wood gives u a lot challenges too!!! on stukas for example... how do you do the fold on wings? o.O they are great anyway!!! expecially the engine part!!!! For angles you need to make a bracing piece that goes under the wings and allow for the width of the wood when making the insert - a bit of Pythagoras. This does mean that you have an extra piece but it only has to be 1mm or so in width luckyly this is your part of the work :P ;)
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Post by Antohammer on Jun 20, 2019 11:04:09 GMT -9
And featured in the OBS newsletter this week! seriously? O.o
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Post by wyvern on Jun 20, 2019 12:56:51 GMT -9
And featured in the OBS newsletter this week! seriously? O.o Indeed, yes it is!
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Post by Antohammer on Aug 19, 2019 11:24:23 GMT -9
a little work in progress guys the opel blitz becouse you know... you need a way to bring your infantry and guns to the frontline
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