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Post by Vermin King on Sept 16, 2019 5:31:19 GMT -9
I will keep that in mind. And thank you for that photo. I was also looking for some good images of outback scrub plants.
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Sept 16, 2019 8:01:27 GMT -9
WWG's "Mars Station" is good for red dirt/desert.
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 16, 2019 9:14:09 GMT -9
I started the front-engine version of the other buggy over lunch, and stopped. I think these views will show what I mean about a lot of flexibility with the back end by moving the engine forward. I like the engine bulge, too
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Post by squirmydad on Sept 16, 2019 10:01:48 GMT -9
I love the buggy horde. Would you consider doing one in Megaforce colors? Megaforce Trailer
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 16, 2019 10:32:34 GMT -9
That's more of an autocross style buggy, like the minimodel.cz, but if you get me images, I'll give it a whirl Wow! Look what came up when I did an image search for 'autocross papercraft' EDIT #2 -- 3dpc.homestead.com/sprints.htmlI chose an image with the hood bump EDIT #3 -- wizardworld.com/guests/megaforce-tank-motorcycle ... LOL I wonder if those were actual Porsche Autocross vehicles or kit cars. I mentioned up above that I was wanting to do a front end that extends more forward resembling the Chenowth, but the Porsche is similar in that respect. Would you mind it being wide front to back, or do you want the narrower front end with the wheels extended out from the body?
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 16, 2019 16:01:29 GMT -9
That wonky front end and back end could be a challenge. Can you mock up some weapons? And here it is with the 3d wheels I think the side boxes look better on low-profile buggies, so I left them off this one
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Post by squirmydad on Sept 16, 2019 19:09:30 GMT -9
I wasn't thinking a re-design, just a Megaforce re-texturing. Yes, it was a terrible movie, I saw it in the theatre with my friends and then we all went and strapped pvc pipes full of bottle rockets and rode around blasting away at each other. An inspirational film in that respect. I'd be happy to mock up some weapons.
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 16, 2019 19:30:37 GMT -9
Since I already had a long nose version planned, I see no reason to not have one of its versions be your request. I will try to start on it later this week
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Post by marcpasquin on Sept 17, 2019 6:22:23 GMT -9
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Post by marcpasquin on Sept 17, 2019 6:24:03 GMT -9
I wasn't thinking a re-design, just a Megaforce re-texturing. Yes, it was a terrible movie, I saw it in the theatre with my friends and then we all went and strapped pvc pipes full of bottle rockets and rode around blasting away at each other. An inspirational film in that respect. I'd be happy to mock up some weapons. Don't suggest, do. Remember: Deeds, not words ! On a related note. While its true the movie was a flop, how did it ever avoid getting its own 3 3/4 action figure toyline ? those things are usually made before the movie is even finish so a flop shouldn't have prevented their existence. The only thing I could find online were hot wheels: hotwheels.fandom.com/wiki/Megaforce_Series
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Post by squirmydad on Sept 17, 2019 6:31:45 GMT -9
Don't suggest, do. Remember: Deeds, not words ! That is very true.
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 17, 2019 16:46:58 GMT -9
Been looking at the different custom buggies from Mad Max 2. In that one image, the iron cross is on the left and desert buggy is on the right. At the bottom is what is as close to an unimpeded side view as you can get. They sure used that truss framework along the bottom of the sides on a lot of these
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 20, 2019 4:25:30 GMT -9
I was trying last night to use the 'desert buggy' side view to get closer to the shape and layout of the 'iron cross buggy'. The image isn't that great, but it allowed me to see things for where I need to go
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 21, 2019 5:37:24 GMT -9
Didn't just search for Yamaha files last night. Worked on converting my basic Wasteland 2 buggy into my version of the 'Desert Buggy'. Originally, I thought I'd be using the desert buggy as a stepping stone to get the Iron Cross buggy done next. I see these names used in forums and fan sites. I read that 'Lone Wolf' was a name taken from the film's chase choreography notes. I don't know if these names are from the notes or not, but people more obsessed with these than I am seem to recognize the names. I've gotten the Desert Buggy silhouette done, and have figured out how I want to handle panels and mesh. The fuel tank is is basically just a drum. Not canon for the film, but I'm going to keep oversized tires all around. I think it makes it look more aggressive. There are a few elements that mark this as the Desert Buggy. It is sometimes seen with varying amounts of junk on it, but it has the side-mounted spares, fuel cell on the back, and the wheel rim on the front. I'm just planning on doing it as a thin cylinder. Not really happy with my efforts so far, but it is promising. The Iron Cross is delayed because of the beer keg fuel cells. They don't look right as cylinders, so I tried doing them as two truncated cones. Then two truncated cones with a strip going around the joins. Then I tried two truncated cones that connect to the strip (way too fiddly at this scale). I have an idea on modifying the cones so that the base ends have a notch so that they will be more 'cylindrical' at the wide end so that the wrap-around strip can wrap more flush without being too difficult to build. If it works, I will be able to have more realistic metal and wooden kegs. So I want to get that right. So I am going to do the Desert Buggy first EDIT -- Played with it a bit more and I think the sides are done. Sort of. I may switch the back triangular panel to the mesh/netting texture I'm playing with. I'll be using it on the roof and the back of the cabin. That rear section is where the fuel cell goes and I plan on using a metal sheeting texture for the floor. The user could opt out of using the fuel cell and have room to place a figure. Needless to say, the middle section has not been adjusted to the new geometry yet I like the lower profile look, though the back of the roof isn't that much lower than on the other two buggies, which are more 'rock climber' than 'sand rail'
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 22, 2019 16:20:25 GMT -9
I think VK's Desert Buggy, somewhat based on a vehicle from Mad Max, is done. I went back and digitally checked areas that I thought might be subject to errors, and fixed some artifacts that crept in. I doubt I will have a chance to work on it before Saturday. Anyone feel like doing a test build? I didn't get around to the fuel cell, but I doubt very many folks building this would use it... If someone wants to do the test build, note that this buggy has a shallow bed. Glue the inner tailgate to the inside of the side tabs and fold the outer tailgate over and glue. I was going to make the wheels more drab, but decided I would probably prefer the whiter wheels, so I left the wheels white on the 3d wheels and spares EDIT -- I kept the side boxes in case someone wants to have two buggies that are similar yet different from one another. The side-mounted spares won't really fit if you use the boxes. I thought I might do one with the boxes and a spare on the hood or roof or in the bed EDIT #2 -- Now with fuel cell that fits in the bed behind the cabin
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Post by dafrca on Sept 22, 2019 17:03:32 GMT -9
Nice work Vermin King These buggies and vehicles are going to make a great fleet of post apocalyptic fun.
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 22, 2019 17:26:01 GMT -9
Does anyone know of a game for off road racing? I think I remember a motocross game back in the eighties, but that's too long ago. I would think it could be fun, rolling to see how you manage jumps, curves and passing. Managing your fuel, tires, etc.
I found a search that got me better images for the ramps I was working on. 'Off road track conditions '. I was also trying to work out crashed cars for jumps.
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Sept 23, 2019 6:24:37 GMT -9
"Gaslands" is for post-apocalyptic vehicle combat, but is perfectly serviceable as a racing game as well.
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 24, 2019 8:24:46 GMT -9
Well, these certifications involve a lot of videos, so while I was listening to them drone on and on about things I already know, I played around with Wasteland2
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Post by squirmydad on Sept 24, 2019 12:43:06 GMT -9
Does anyone know of a game for off road racing? I think I remember a motocross game back in the eighties, but that's too long ago. I would think it could be fun, rolling to see how you manage jumps, curves and passing. Managing your fuel, tires, etc. I found a search that got me better images for the ramps I was working on. 'Off road track conditions '. I was also trying to work out crashed cars for jumps. Dark FutureBattlecarsGaslandsRoad Kill RallyRoad Rally USASpeed rallyMonster Truck RallySome of these are board games but it's not too difficult to move your game beyond the board and spread the track out all over the living room.
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 24, 2019 17:06:50 GMT -9
Well, as a reward to myself for being Ready-to-Sell with one company, and sorting out contracting issues and finishing core training on another, I printed out Wasteland 3 and Wasteland 2-CFA tonight. At least it's a step towards building...
I wish I could see more on Gaslands. Mentioned this to AirDave about how I fondly remembered Car Wars and I was looking for a simple off-road racing games. I would really like something that could have flexible layouts and flexible terrain -- jumps, high-G sand curves, rock-climbing obstacles, etc. Looking for a race game that could go from short dirt track oval to demolition derby, to motocross track to full-out King of Hammers. He's intrigued (also likes the buggies, though he prefers sandrails). He said I would freak if he mentioned what board games he was instrumental in developing. When our plates get a little emptier, he wants to talk.
This brings me back to something I mentioned above. Dirt ramps and crushed car ramps and dunes. As I was working on the ramps, with a more organic shape than 'wedges', it hit me why so many of the old vintage models have alternating tabs. If you have tabs of uniform size, and they alternate, you keep curved edges so that they are the same length. Now my thought is to design with alternating tabs, and then move the tabs to one side. Not sure when I'll get a chance to prove the theory
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 25, 2019 4:39:03 GMT -9
I did score these last night and glued the fold-over sides and left them in a book to dry overnight
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 26, 2019 5:25:02 GMT -9
Very hard night last night, but I did do a little on this. Doing the movie version with the spares on the sides instead of the boxes. Still need to close up tires, then the empty rim goes on the front, fuel cell in the back, and installing the tires
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 26, 2019 18:48:41 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 27, 2019 4:48:13 GMT -9
Decided I really needed to see the side boxes, so I removed the spares, not well, but better than I thought. As I thought, side boxes look better on lower-profile buggies. I still like the over-sized tires all around, but I think the rear tires need to be wider. EDIT-- I didn't really talk about the wheel on the hood. My photos don't really do it justice, but I made the strip slightly smaller in comparison to the faces, and I think it came out pretty good. I'm 'happy' with the gas tank, but the cap on top needs to be more enhanced. It gets lost
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 27, 2019 5:53:28 GMT -9
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Post by squirmydad on Sept 28, 2019 10:40:08 GMT -9
Dave Graffam has some Gaslands terrain sets, and all of his sets are currently on sale for $1 each- Auto Combat Accessories
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 29, 2019 16:39:04 GMT -9
Thanks for the heads-up on the sale. I did pick up the Wasteland Dirt Track, but I am wanting to go for more of a dirt and rock mounds look. And several other items. I didn't realize how close you can get to the Babylon Toxic Sand look by playing with the multi-layers on his other Sci Fi models. Besides messing with the Jet Car, I made adjustments to Wasteland 3 Buggy and did a lot of work on the movie Desert Buggy. On Wasteland 3, I made the spares into double-faced spares. The rear tires are now 20% wider than the front tires. There is also a fold-under tab below the front bumper to add stiffness. I have a plan for getting the desert buggy looking more like the movie, but it will have panels. Instead of the woven wire or cargo net mesh, I'm using a heavy cargo net. Side shapes are looking good now. Rear tires are 20% wider. Front tires and spares are reduced to 80%. Cabin shape is much better. Build is going to be more complex, so I will probably be the only one to ever build this
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 30, 2019 12:13:09 GMT -9
Well, while I was on yet another webinar today, I was looking at the collection of buggies, and noticed a couple things.
Buggy 3 is rear-engined with no room for the engine. Either the bed needs an engine hump, or the bed needs to become a shelf. That or it needs to be front-engined like on Buggy 2.
Buggy 2 has that hood piece, but I have a feeling most people won't add it. Frankly, I don't remember all I did in working it out, but it has a square footprint! I don't remember how I decided on how wide the front of the piece should be and just used the rear width. But that is good for those that don't want to add it. I need to have some sort of vents or something there to add visual interest if one doesn't add the hood piece, and it will also show the position on the hood for where the hood piece should go.
For next month's hoard, I started work on the extended cabin jungle buggy last night. I originally cut it in half and put in the extension and joined the back half to it, only it reminds me of some of the stretch limos ... too long of a wheelbase. I'm going to split the difference between the original axle location and where it is currently and see which way looks best
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Post by Vermin King on Oct 2, 2019 9:18:38 GMT -9
All the talk of unfinished projects got me thinking I should finish something ... Buggy 3 Wider rear tires, shelf instead of bed, and narrowed the body a tad (about 1/4 inch). Not sure when I will ever have a chance to build it, but I wanted to have something 'done'. I think when I do build it, I will have a spare on the hood and one on the roof
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