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Post by Vermin King on Nov 11, 2019 5:26:15 GMT -9
A bit of a late start this year. Thank you wyvern for the reminder. FH 184 January - Worlds of Verne FH 185 February - Bar Fight! FH 186 March - CyberPunk Forces FH 187 April - Renaissance Warmachines in Venice FH 188 May - Weird World War-Dieselpunk FH 189 June - Fantasy Pets and Familiars FH 190 July - Hard Vacuum/Deep Space FH *** August - Papercuts 2020 FH 191 September - Halloween Monsters and Hunters FH 192 October - Wasteland Survivors/Gamma World Mutants FH 193 November - About the Castle FH 194 December - Hoard of the Procrastinators Shep - Boldly Gone Before Last years hoards were -- FH 173 January - Under-Represented Races FH 174 February - Circus Comes to Silver Springs FH 175 March - Off the Map FH 176 April - PLASEBUILMO (Play Set Building Month) FH 177 May - Kids vs ... FH 178 June - One Small Step FH 179 July - Flotsam, Jetsam and Cargo FH *** August - Papercuts 2019 FH 180 September - Early Retro Future Space FH 181 October - Welcome to the Jungle FH 182 November - Great White North FH 183 December - Hoard of the Procrastinators Last year, we decided to alternate between Christmas and Halloween themes each year, so I have already entered Halloween. Hoard of the Procrastinators is a good way of getting projects finished that weren't done during the Theme Months, so I am including it. And, of course, Papercuts 2020 You can review last year's discussions at cardboard-warriors.proboards.com/thread/9229/2019-forum-hoards?page=1So, what would you like to see in 2020? EDIT -- We decided a while back to procrastinate on the Procrastinators Hoard, in order to honor Shep, since his birthday was in December
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Post by emergencyoverride on Nov 11, 2019 8:17:06 GMT -9
How about a horde for Victorian horror or Van Helsing type monsters and monster hunters of all kinds? Could include vehicles and buildings as well.
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Post by squirmydad on Nov 11, 2019 9:30:01 GMT -9
Hard Vacuum - Sci-Fi space adventures Lower Depths - The big bad monsters at the very bottom of the Dungeon. Barfight! Fantasy Pets Sticks + Stones - Prehistoric role-playing aids for the two character classes; you can be a Hunter or a Gatherer. Gamma World/Mutant Future Cubicle Wars - Office workers and their kingdoms.
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Post by Vermin King on Nov 11, 2019 9:49:41 GMT -9
Bar Fight! Not sure what all would be involved with that, but sounds fun. My first thought was break-away tables and chairs. And the cast of interesting characters.
Victorian Horror sounds great, but would that be a separate theme or replace the September hoard?
No bad ideas ... there are no bad ones, but Fantasy Pets scares me a bit. We've tried to do familiars and fantasy beasts in the past with a lukewarm response. And I really don't know why
I usually am open to anything prehistoric
Keep ideas coming
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Post by forgedchaos on Nov 11, 2019 9:51:31 GMT -9
For Sale! - Markets and Stores?
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Post by squirmydad on Nov 11, 2019 13:59:32 GMT -9
Barfight idea; "Your group of Adventurers is sitting in the tavern when a mysterious stranger approaches you with a risky quest proposal..." How many great adventures start, but who are these mysterious strangers that seem to hang out in bars hiring adventurers all the time? I picture a boardgame or rpg scenario where the players are agents of competing Patrons who need adventurers to complete quests for them. Your objective is to recruit adventurers in the tavern and prevent other agents from recruiting adventurers. Perhaps a deck of dirty tricks and small advantages to play as you try to make your way to the potential recruits. Examples; -Flirty barmaid distracts, lose 1 turn (play on opponent) -Bribe bartender to spike a drink, lose 2 turns (play on opponent) -Extra gold, play in response to a bribe against you to outbid an opponent -Drunken Dwarf starts a fight, all movement is penalized due to struggling crowd -Stool Boom! Opponent hit by flying chair, stunned for 1-3 turns, can still play cards That's just my brainstorm, I doubt if I'll do anything with this idea, just seemed fun.
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Post by dafrca on Nov 11, 2019 17:47:45 GMT -9
- Another Dimension - Anywhere not Earth like?
- Battle Field Props - Leave the era open to the artist.
- Dark Minds - Psychics and Dream Walkers
- Solar System Colonization - Mars, Luna, or beyond
- What If - Alternate History
- Cars of the Stars - Movie or TV vehicles
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Post by shep on Nov 11, 2019 19:30:49 GMT -9
I guess there will not be another PlaSeBuilMo, eh?
How about not Victorian but Baroque and Rococo Horror? Just to try out some other historical eras than always Victorian age...
The Strange Plateau Lost In Time (could also be Hollow Earth Expedition and then include Atlanteans, too) – Imagine a plateau somwhere high up and deep within a mountain range, where Templars fight dinosaurs, Neanderthals kidnap celtic women for their blonde and red hair, Egyptian slavers hunt down a prehistoric race of lizardmen, sabertoothed great cats threaten British explorers, etc.
Renaissance Warmachines – Remember Leonardo da Vinci's tank, helicopter, and flying machine? How about taking this a step (or three) further? Imagine renaissance mecha, flying ships on giant balloons, etc. This could even turn into a neat little wargame or RPG idea. How about that? The foundation of the first game produced by the carboard warriors forum...
And just because it's the year, and we missed out the Blade Runner opportunity in 2019: Cyberpunk 2020
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Post by squirmydad on Nov 11, 2019 19:46:43 GMT -9
Renaissance Mecha...has a very nice ring to it.
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Nov 11, 2019 21:50:32 GMT -9
Hollow Earth Expedition is a papercraft product line from Fat Dragon Games, no need to create any confusion.
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Post by Vermin King on Nov 12, 2019 6:03:38 GMT -9
I want to try to digest these tonight. As I read these, some seem too specific and some too vague. Some seem great, but of limited use, so would we get a response?
I am not sure where the copyright issues stand on Hollow Earth Expedition. With the Book authors? The RPG developers? I like Fat Dragon Games, but I don't see how they could get a copyright on something whose theories go back at least to 1692, further if you count myth and legend. And they probably wouldn't have gotten into that line if it wasn't for the books, movies and the RPG.
I seriously want to do another PlaSeBuilMo, but only if we have several jump on board, committed to giving it a go. There is a commitment level with that which is far and above the normal Hoard. I found that out the hard way last year.
Other Dimensions may be too vague. Alternate History is something we do in every Hoard, unless you do something more specific, so we need to hash that out a bit.
I like the Market/Shops concept, but we haven't had the best of luck doing those in the past, but maybe it is time.
The discussion here isn't just a list of possibilities. If you like an idea, whether your own, or someone else's, throw in ideas to help flesh it out.
Going back to last year, I really would have liked to do the Space Port. All the miscellaneous stuff, whether on a planet or in orbit or in deep space. There's an awful lot of stuff that hasn't been done on that one.
But, hey, I need to get back to work
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Post by forgedchaos on Nov 12, 2019 6:10:25 GMT -9
just out of curiosity what is PlaSeBuilMo
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Post by Vermin King on Nov 12, 2019 6:33:03 GMT -9
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Post by forgedchaos on Nov 12, 2019 6:39:58 GMT -9
ahh ok I understand now
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Post by Vermin King on Nov 12, 2019 7:32:53 GMT -9
PlaSeBuilMo creates issues with the designers. Everyone has things they are better at than others. For me, figures are very difficult. In general, I try to do Profile Views when I can so that I don't need to alter much for the back. I can make tiles, but I'm not great at them. I'm much better at Terrain Pieces. To be successful in this, you have to be thinking 'set', and you have to have an idea of what you would want in that set if you were a consumer. Something that while it might not have everything someone might want to add in, it has what is required for basic play.
If we try this again in 2020, I know we need to have plenty of space for the planning of it. And even then, plans can fall short.
I really like the challenge of it. Maybe tonight I can compile some examples (other than the Chick-Fil-A examples). The Disney Printables playsets come to mind, or the HP Kung Fu Panda playset.
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Post by mesper on Nov 12, 2019 10:42:15 GMT -9
... How about not Victorian but Baroque and Rococo Horror? Just to try out some other historical eras than always Victorian age... The Strange Plateau Lost In Time (could also be Hollow Earth Expedition and then include Atlanteans, too) – Imagine a plateau somwhere high up and deep within a mountain range, where Templars fight dinosaurs, Neanderthals kidnap celtic women for their blonde and red hair, Egyptian slavers hunt down a prehistoric race of lizardmen, sabertoothed great cats threaten British explorers, etc. Renaissance Warmachines – Remember Leonardo da Vinci's tank, helicopter, and flying machine? How about taking this a step (or three) further? Imagine renaissance mecha, flying ships on giant balloons, etc. This could even turn into a neat little wargame or RPG idea. How about that? The foundation of the first game produced by the carboard warriors forum... And just because it's the year, and we missed out the Blade Runner opportunity in 2019: Cyberpunk 2020Yep! A lot of decent ideas here! Then " The foundation of the first game produced by the carboard warriors forum..." sounds tempting...
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Post by mesper on Nov 12, 2019 10:51:42 GMT -9
-Flirty barmaid distracts [...] Well perhaps I could deal with this one (meaning flirty barmaid mini, not distraction...) but not sure if the site's "mr Bobb" chaperon guard will let my version pass... -Drunken Dwarf starts a fight [...] Yeah, consider it done (meaning drunken dwarf, not fight!)
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Post by forgedchaos on Nov 12, 2019 11:13:40 GMT -9
Renaissance Warmachines – Remember Leonardo da Vinci's tank, helicopter, and flying machine? How about taking this a step (or three) further? Imagine renaissance mecha, flying ships on giant balloons, etc. This could even turn into a neat little wargame or RPG idea. How about that? The foundation of the first game produced by the carboard warriors forum... Now Im researching Da Vinci's Inventions and trying to figure out the mechanics of Renaissance Mecha and warmachines Thing is I could figure out the mechanics and rules but doubt i could do the play pieces.
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Post by Vermin King on Nov 12, 2019 12:33:03 GMT -9
I try to tell everyone, you are more capable than you realize. That goes for everyone here. I bet Dave Graffam did not realize what he could do until he did his Warhammer Fantasy Buildings and got more ideas. Dave Okum probably didn't think he could do what he's doing until he started. mesper probably knew he was a great artist before he started doing figures, but I bet he had some doubts about it until he got into it (I bet bravesirkevin is in the same boat- excellent artist, but would miniatures be a good medium to express that talent). I could go on and on. squirmydad, mproteau (Paper Realms), lightning, aaron, scarecrow, grendelsmother64, etc. and etc. Even Christopher Roe probably had no idea what he would come up with when he started. My gosh, I can't even remotely hit everyone who has been here at some time that didn't get started some time. My apologies to anyone not mentioned, you are legion. And then there's all the folks who have posted in-game photos. I love those. Seeing things in use. Seeing cobbled together things to fill in gaps. If you haven't checked out oldschooldm's build artistry, fold-flats, pop-up's, etc. prepare to be thrilled. Give it a shot
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Post by wyvern on Nov 12, 2019 14:53:16 GMT -9
A Bar-Room Brawl Hoard would be an option for a PlaSeBuilMo, aside from anything else. Back in 1979, White Dwarf magazine number 11 published a D&D bar-room brawl scenario complete with map and counters by Lewis Pulsipher, for example. If you don't have a copy of the magazine (really?!) you may be able to find one online, but I couldn't possibly say where you might look for that, obviously... However, I did come across this Hall of the Mountain King blog posting from 2016 which has some fairly modest resolution scans of the three pages you can more or less read most of, to give you some idea what it was all about (and a warning regarding one option for one of the characters). This sticks in my mind as I ran an expanded variant of this with a pal for the inaugural meeting of my university's D&D Society at the start of my second year there. We had about twenty more people turn up than we'd expected, so we were "volunteered" to DM this, as something we could do pretty much on the fly. Pulsipher's original comments about how exhausting it was to run were spot-on, as we were both shattered and hoarse by the end of the night, and while it had been OK for most of the players, it was no classic, by any stretch of the imagination! In other topics, I like the idea of the Sticks + Stones Prehistoric Hoard, as being something that isn't just lost worlds and anachronistic dinosaurs for once, but something a bit more archaeological, maybe more like the Steve Barber Models Prehistoric Settlement cast minis figure game. However, given wargame rules like Tusk allow for hunting scenarios for anything between prehistory to the nineteenth century, mostly of mammoths, but other prehistoric animals as well, that might open things up to different options - Victorian period and all points prior to that time say, such as a medieval boar hunt (like the mythic Twrch Trwyth, for example). PlaSeBuilMo again, maybe, with scenery (including huts and standing stones, perhaps), animals and hunters required. Fantasy Pets strikes a chord as I'm currently reading through Sandy Petersen's Cthulhu Mythos for 5e Fantasy, in which a new player character option is to be a Dreamlands Cat (which can also be an NPC, a familiar for a non-feline player character, or even "just" a creature to be encountered). As there are options for Saturnian, Uranian and Martian Cats, as well as the more usual Earthly variety, that would open up options for something more wide-ranging (given the different varieties don't always look much like you might think a cat would). Zoogs are also included similarly among creatures some might consider suitable as "pets". For the Halloween Spooktacular, perhaps this could be themed to one, or a broader range of, historical periods, rather than just a generic "Halloween" for once?
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Post by marzman on Nov 12, 2019 15:20:37 GMT -9
I thirdly Shep's idea of the not Victorian steampunk mecha and lost world ideas.
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Post by shep on Nov 12, 2019 16:12:52 GMT -9
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Post by shep on Nov 12, 2019 16:25:44 GMT -9
A spaceport project might really be a neat idea, and it could include various of the other scifi topics that were put forward. Also, this might come in very handy in a plethora of games...
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Post by Vermin King on Nov 12, 2019 16:55:39 GMT -9
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Post by squirmydad on Nov 12, 2019 17:44:25 GMT -9
I propose putting this into the January slot to allow for the Hoard to be released in time for 192nd birthday celebration games. Perhaps 'Jules Verne's Hollow Earth' or just 'The Hollow Earth' I like it, make it so!
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Post by Vermin King on Nov 12, 2019 18:24:36 GMT -9
Made it so, but it is still open to discussion. I think as shep pointed out 'The Strange Plateau Lost In Time (could also be Hollow Earth Expedition and then include Atlanteans, too) – Imagine a plateau somwhere high up and deep within a mountain range, where Templars fight dinosaurs, Neanderthals kidnap celtic women for their blonde and red hair, Egyptian slavers hunt down a prehistoric race of lizardmen, sabertoothed great cats threaten British explorers, etc.' Would Sticks and Stones slide in there, or is it worthy of its own slot? Rennaisance Mecha and War Machines appeals to me, but then again, I built all those Leonardo models from BBC, so it would. I'm not sure if wyvern's post has me less or more excited about Barfight! Absolutely correct that what was previously done would have been a good PlaSeBuilMo entry (Map, counters and background). Barfights are an element that go WAY back. If I remember correctly, one of Rome's slave rebellions started as a bar fight. Humans being what they are, bar fights will always be with us. Do we want this to be genre-specific? I would really like to see this one come together. I always fight with myself on these, because some things really appeal to me, but not so much with others. Markets, Bazaars and Shops is one of those. As is Movie/TV cars/vehicles. Spaceport really appeals to me, too, but it needs to be one that we have several people on board for. More ideas, please. More playing with already-presented ideas, please.
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Nov 12, 2019 18:48:52 GMT -9
shep, I am fully aware However, the FDG line of papeecraft toys using that same name is what gives me pause, as we also are distributing papercraft toys.
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Post by squirmydad on Nov 12, 2019 19:13:41 GMT -9
shep, I am fully aware However, the FDG line of papeecraft toys using that same name is what gives me pause, as we also are distributing papercraft toys. If we call it just "Hollow Earth" and not "Hollow Earth Expedition" we are in the clear.
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Post by dafrca on Nov 13, 2019 0:10:46 GMT -9
shep , I am fully aware However, the FDG line of papeecraft toys using that same name is what gives me pause, as we also are distributing papercraft toys. If we call it just "Hollow Earth" and not "Hollow Earth Expedition" we are in the clear. Or just call the theme "The Jules Verne Birthday Horde" and say it is for things that would fit into one of his books. That way you avoid the concern but not avoid the ability of an artist to do a "Journey to the Center of the Earth" item or set.
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Post by Vermin King on Nov 13, 2019 4:44:35 GMT -9
And that allows for Hollow Earth, Lost World, 20 Thousand Leagues Under the Sea, Lost World, Around the World in 80 Days, futuristic 20th Century Paris, the Moon, etc. I try to set these up as not too specific, but somewhat focused. Vernean-inspired still keeps things focused, while covering a lot of things.
Which begs the question -- what is your favorite Verne novel?
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