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Post by Vermin King on Dec 24, 2019 17:33:06 GMT -9
The theme for this month's HOARD is Worlds of Verne This can be any sort of miniature figure or model on the above theme or feel free to submit miniatures off theme. If you submit a figure, they must include both front and rear art, have a proper trimming outline, and include instructions for multi-part models. Recolors and figure mods are encouraged, and even uncolored designs are welcome. No nudity or sexuality, but bloody gory and horrifying is encouraged. If you have questions about how to design your entries, like formats, resolution, and stuff like that, see the HOARD GUIDELINES in this forum category. Entries for the Hoard will be accepted until the last day of January, 2020. And to think his amazing body of work started with fictional travelogues in serial fashion for a magazine. Well if you discount the poems he wrote for the gal that married someone else, and the unsuccessful operas and plays. But I think it is a rather rare thing for someone to hit on their life's work as the first or second things they do in life. He decided early on that he wanted to create a new style of novel that is both entertaining and educational. This allowed him to spend hours doing diligent research on places, people, science, history and all those elements that fleshed out his work. Though not the first to attempt scientific novels, his idea of a Roman de la Science defined his approach to his novels that carried through his lifetime. He did have a knack of making you feel like you are experiencing the places, people and the science and history that defines them. Choose your favorite novel (or play or opera, if you can find them). He certainly was a wealth of topics to inspire. I'm leaning towards the more mundane, either Five Weeks in a Balloon or Around the World in 80 days. My gosh, that last one could have been a Hoard in itself -- Western Europe, Egypt, India, Southeast Asia, the Old West in the time of Rail Barons and the Industrial East. In his words -- "My object has been to depict the earth, and not the earth alone, but the universeโฆ And I have tried at the same time to realize a very high ideal of beauty of style. It is said that there can't be any style in a novel of adventure, but it isn't true." I hope everyone can have a great time with this
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Post by shep on Jan 3, 2020 3:46:14 GMT -9
Well, I have no real idea what to do, so I decided to create something useful for this hoard. I'll try designing storage boxes in the look and style of "leather-bound book volumes". We'll see how that'll work out...
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 3, 2020 9:54:47 GMT -9
My recollection of Journey to the Center of the Earth was incorrect, jv.gilead.org.il/wolcott/CE-allc/ ,I had thought I would do some of my dinos to have the modded scarecrow minis ride. Not many dinos in the book, but there are other creatures from that age and prehistoric mammals. Then back to Five Weeks in a Balloon didn't lead me to any ideas. Around the World in Eighty Days could lead to something in India. I'm not sure what I will do.
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Post by squirmydad on Jan 3, 2020 11:44:13 GMT -9
Well, I have no real idea what to do, so I decided to create something useful for this hoard. I'll try designing storage boxes in the look and style of "leather-bound book volumes". We'll see how that'll work out... Dungeon Saga boxes are like that, I like that look.
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Post by shep on Jan 4, 2020 4:17:31 GMT -9
Interesting... Yeah, that's the basic idea. I might need to get one of those, to see how they did the hinge on the lid...
EDIT: Woah, 80 Euros is a tidbit much for a simple research! I'll have to find a different way to answer the hinge-question...
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 4, 2020 5:00:24 GMT -9
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Post by shep on Jan 4, 2020 5:09:56 GMT -9
This very much seems to be what I have to look at. Thanks for the link... I also almost forgot that I have this: I bought this box in a kind of dollar-store for less than 5 Euros...
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 7, 2020 14:29:46 GMT -9
I keep trying to find ideas to use those scarecrow minis, and I might have an idea. In India, they have elephant races. In Africa, there are zebra and ostrich races. I only found photoshopped versions of giraffe racers. Races in the books? No, but I imagine the thought crossed the movie writers' minds. Of course, they also had dinos in the movies...
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Post by cowboyleland on Jan 7, 2020 21:47:28 GMT -9
What is a good scale for something like this?
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 8, 2020 5:10:09 GMT -9
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Post by cowboyleland on Jan 8, 2020 19:43:16 GMT -9
With the rotormasts it is something like six stories high. Seems a little unweildy at 30mm. But I was looking at the 1:600 Mars ships and it seems like it might be to small for that. How do people feel about 6mm?
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Jan 8, 2020 22:38:37 GMT -9
With the rotormasts it is something like six stories high. Seems a little unweildy at 30mm. But I was looking at the 1:600 Mars ships and it seems like it might be to small for that. How do people feel about 6mm? 6mm is micro-armor, Epic 40K, and Battletech scale.
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 9, 2020 12:11:51 GMT -9
My initial ostrich steed was a tad spindly. So I took some photos of the complete Cybertruck instead. I might just do some more dinos, even though they aren't correct 'by the book'
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Jan 9, 2020 19:06:12 GMT -9
My initial ostrich steed was a tad spindly. So I took some photos of the complete Cybertruck instead. I might just do some more dinos, even though they aren't correct 'by the book' or feel free to submit miniatures off theme.
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 10, 2020 5:21:14 GMT -9
Utahraptor. I did these off an image from Deviantart. The top one is only a slight modification of the original art. The bottom one is designed to sit more erect. I'm not sure what it is about some artwork, but this is one of them where 'Cartoon' does virtually nothing to the image. I've seen that happen a few times, but it has been a while. They both have been brightened with hue, saturation and contrast played with to try to get them clearer visually Found it (funny, I had to find it through Bing. Couldn't find it on Google). www.deviantart.com/rr-df-raptorred/art/Dino-Instinct-Utahraptor-289294461
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Post by cowboyleland on Jan 11, 2020 9:45:13 GMT -9
Actually, I have decided 1:600 is worth a try. Compatible with squirmydad Sky Galleons. If I love it (or hate it so badly I feel it must be redeemed) I will continue in squirmydad 's footsteps and try a 15mm version.
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 11, 2020 10:54:12 GMT -9
Sounds good to me.
I'm really half tempted to go back and revise some of my other dinos
I probably ought to add forearm feathers to the Utahraptor. Assuming it is classified correctly. Microraptor had feathers on all four limbs. Dakotaraptor has ulnar quill knobs indicating feather attachment. Velociraptor also indicates forearm feathers ( on some of the specimens (except on my model)). I only want to do dinos that are somewhat realistic based on what we know. Who knows about skin textures and colors, so that is up for grabs, but when we find evidence of feathers on the forearms, I should probably include it. But most artists go all-in as far as feathers. If they have forearm feathers, they make the whole thing feathered. I'm not convinced.
But on none of the Utahraptor specimens are there quill knobs. hmmm
I was looking at other dinos to add to the collection, and found that gallimimus also has specimens with quill knobs on their forearms. I have some thinking to do before I proceed
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 12, 2020 6:45:30 GMT -9
Undecided on whether I like this better or not ... Probably looks odd to me because I'm not used to feathered forearms on dinos. Maybe
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Post by cowboyleland on Jan 12, 2020 7:24:29 GMT -9
And I went back to 6mm for a white model test build, thinking from there I could get to both the smaller and larger versions. The level of detail I am going for at 6mm can't be scaled down to 1:600, I would have to simplify a lot.
I think I will keep going on the 6mm version and see where I get.
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 12, 2020 8:06:51 GMT -9
I went back and made some adjustments and then carried them over to the velociraptors. Back when I did the velociraptors, I made them slightly larger than movie scale, so with the addition of utahraptor, I shrank the velociraptors to 85% EDIT -- Wanted to get those riders in order. EDIT #2 -- wyvern started a conversation a while back on what can lead to a big Hoard. He also pointed out that some of the larger collections were topics I contributed a lot to. I've given that a lot of thought, trying to figure out why some things that I really like and want to do take forever, and sometimes things just seem really easy to put together. Doing the Utahraptor and velociraptor revisions, got me going on the T-Rex I had thought to do several times, and it went together very easily. I also started work on a Ceratopsian and a couple other herbivores. And in the midst of that, I whipped out that Police Cybertruck. Which got me thinking about why these are going so quickly. I think it comes down to having a method worked out at a time when I have some time to use that method on projects that I had already put some thought and prep-work into. Ice and snow had me stranded at home today, so last night I decided which projects I thought I could knock out today, and with the Chiefs game being my only distraction, they just came together. If you remember the Circus Hoard, I got a bit of a head start in January last year (because of snows), and once I got the method worked out for the wagons, with the images I'd collected already, they just went like clockwork. Felicitous timing helps my creative output. Having a topic that can use something that I recently figured out a method for and time to use it. So I guess it comes down to the phase of the moon and the stars aligning...
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Post by squirmydad on Jan 12, 2020 19:53:11 GMT -9
Actually, I have decided 1:600 is worth a try. Compatible with squirmydad Sky Galleons. If I love it (or hate it so badly I feel it must be redeemed) I will continue in squirmydad 's footsteps and try a 15mm version. Here is another pic with some bodies hanging from the bottom, very useful for determining overall size and relative scale. So using that body, 30mm tall for big scale, results in a little over 24 inch long airship, which becomes about 13 inches long for 15 scale (x.55), still a prodigious project. For 6mm scale I clock it at a reasonable 4.8 inches, with some decisions to be made about the level of detail involved in all of those propellors. Good luck, I'd really love to see this built.
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Post by Rhannon on Jan 12, 2020 23:25:40 GMT -9
Ok It's not for the hoard. Obviously it's not a my production.
But I assumed it was interesting to see, given the subject ( the characters of Jules VERNE ). A PELLERIN page (or in PELLERIN style) designed by the great master ( artist, author, professor ... ) of Nantes, Jean BRUNEAU.
I recommend everyone to visit this site. ;-)
Have a good day. :-)
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 13, 2020 6:25:43 GMT -9
I'm still not sold on the feathered forearms. Maybe if I made the feathers shorter or picked a different bird to base the wings on. My pen I used on edging the original guys dried up, so I thought I would try to just edge the dark parts. I think on the next one I will try a different color but try to be close. When I did the first ones, I would edge the whole thing, then go back with the brown/black where there are dark spots along the edge.
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Post by mesper on Jan 13, 2020 13:16:05 GMT -9
Ok It's not for the hoard. Obviously it's not a my production.
But I assumed it was interesting to see, given the subject ( the characters of Jules VERNE ). A PELLERIN page (or in PELLERIN style) designed by the great master ( artist, author, professor ... ) of Nantes, Jean BRUNEAU.
I recommend everyone to visit this site. ;-) Have a good day. :-)
Maybe old school but very stylish, gallant and quality - superb!
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Post by cowboyleland on Jan 13, 2020 16:30:23 GMT -9
Actually, I have decided 1:600 is worth a try. Compatible with squirmydad Sky Galleons. If I love it (or hate it so badly I feel it must be redeemed) I will continue in squirmydad 's footsteps and try a 15mm version. Here is another pic with some bodies hanging from the bottom, very useful for determining overall size and relative scale. So using that body, 30mm tall for big scale, results in a little over 24 inch long airship, which becomes about 13 inches long for 15 scale (x.55), still a prodigious project. For 6mm scale I clock it at a reasonable 4.8 inches, with some decisions to be made about the level of detail involved in all of those propellors. Good luck, I'd really love to see this built. I scaled my 6mm version by assuming the railing was 3' tall. It came out to 4.5" Now if I can just get the geometry at the ends of the cylinder right so I can move on to the gondola. I might give the figures of M. Bruneau backs, if I have time.
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 14, 2020 17:12:06 GMT -9
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Post by squirmydad on Jan 14, 2020 18:08:11 GMT -9
It's the Queen's Light Raptor Brigade!
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 14, 2020 19:51:24 GMT -9
That would be scarecrow version with the red coats. I went back to the list of prehistoric animals in the book, only it was removed from Wikipedia. However, you can get to it through Wayback Machine. Lophiodon was a horse-sized tapir. I will keep looking
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 20, 2020 6:19:01 GMT -9
From Wikipedia, summer, 2019 I plan on doing a Deinotherium, an extinct gazelle to replace the Leptotherium, the Lophiodon, the Anoplotherium, Megatherium and a Mastodon. Since the Leptotherium and Anoplotherium are smaller, I don't think I will do them 2.5d. The only Anoplotherium images I could find were from old magic lantern images from Hawkins, who did statues of them and other prehistoric animals for the Crystal Palace Exposition. The statues still exist en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Palace_DinosaursSince the bulk of the creatures are sea creatures, and I have never played an ocean-going campaign, I'm not doing the fish, the Ichthyosaurus or Plesiosaurus. The giant bird wasn't really identified or the pterosaur (especially since I did a Pterodactyl earlier).
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 20, 2020 11:27:24 GMT -9
I suppose I could substitute a Paleotherium for the Merycotherium. It looks cattle-like. Since no one knows the coloration on the Leptotherium any way, my pseudo-Leptotherium I colored as a Thompson gazelle. To give me two of those, I will probably just do a mirror of this one. On the Paleotherium, that painting has one blocking the view of the other, but I can take the different back leg and the different head to give me two of those. I think EDIT --
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