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Post by kricket on Jun 16, 2009 13:54:35 GMT -9
Pre-sketch for my first figure. Based on my D&D 3.5 character, a dwarven fighter/battlesmith w/2 warhammers.
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Post by jabbro on Jun 16, 2009 14:27:36 GMT -9
Nice sketch, Kricket. This has a lot of character It should come out nicely once it is inked and colored. I'm looking forward to seeing how it progresses.
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Post by stevelortz on Jun 16, 2009 14:38:54 GMT -9
What's your character's name?
I notice he has the futhork symbol for "M" on the face of the hammer in his left hand, and for "K" on the other one.
You may find that having his arms project forward out of the picture plane may cause some difficulties when you detail the backside. Foreshortening doesn't look right from the back. If you put his arms more straight out to the sides, they will be easier to draw, and the figure will be more useful if you want to swap weapons or perform some other modification. You can make them look dynamic by the way you angle them up or down.
I like the figure. You have a strong drawing style that projects character. Very good!
Have fun! Steve
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Post by kricket on Jun 16, 2009 15:21:50 GMT -9
What's your character's name? I notice he has the futhork symbol for "M" on the face of the hammer in his left hand, and for "K" on the other one. You may find that having his arms project forward out of the picture plane may cause some difficulties when you detail the backside. Foreshortening doesn't look right from the back. If you put his arms more straight out to the sides, they will be easier to draw, and the figure will be more useful if you want to swap weapons or perform some other modification. You can make them look dynamic by the way you angle them up or down. I like the figure. You have a strong drawing style that projects character. Very good! Thanks Jabbro and Stevelortz, I hadn't thought about how foreshortening looks from the back, I'll have to try and fix that. The runes.. His name is Krick. My initials are M.K. I thought it might be funny to have him hammering my/his initials into every monster he pounds into pieces.
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Post by stevelortz on Jun 16, 2009 17:54:25 GMT -9
I like Krick, even though his beard seems indecently short to a guy whose first D&D character was a dwarf over 34 years ago, and who has been playing them one way or another ever since. What is this younger generation coming to , trimming their beards Have fun! Steve
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Post by godofrandomness on Jun 16, 2009 19:24:44 GMT -9
I really like the look of the figure, but he does look like he should have more hair. It comes off like he has a receding hairline, or maybe a gnome with a fake beard on...
I do indeed love the whole "hammering one's initials into heads of one's enemies" bit. The runes are a nice touch.
The only other bit of critique would be to make the hammerheads a little bigger. Currently his fists seem to be larger than the hammers.
Keep up the good work!
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Post by onemonkeybeau on Jun 16, 2009 20:11:03 GMT -9
Hey Kricket!
I really like your style!
I totally agree with Steve about the foreshortening though... it will look pretty strange from behind.
I'd love to see this fig with arms dynamically posed to the sides.
Do you have any more sketches for us?
onemonkeybeau
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Post by stevelortz on Jun 16, 2009 20:13:36 GMT -9
If you want to turn the hammers into the plane of the figure, it would be okay to have the runes on the sides of the hammer heads, too. In fact, looking at the rune on the striking surface, it would probably be reversed like the type on a rubber stamp. Wouldn't make much difference with the "M", but the "K" would be reversed.
Have fun! Steve
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Post by kricket on Jun 16, 2009 20:50:27 GMT -9
Thanks for all the great advice, here's version 2. I think I can get away with the foreshortening in this one. In the previous his arm was straight out, here's it's still slightly bent. Steve, you're totally right, I need to reverse the runes, I'll do that when I ink it. I also widened the cloak a bit, connected em to the bottoms of the hammers so the figure overall will be less flimsy.
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Post by onemonkeybeau on Jun 16, 2009 22:00:45 GMT -9
Great improvements Kricket!
Looking forward to seeing this guy colored!
onemonkeybeau
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Post by kricket on Jun 16, 2009 22:54:28 GMT -9
Inked! Color tomorrow
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Post by jabbro on Jun 17, 2009 3:50:29 GMT -9
I like the progression. The flourishes on the armor are a nice touch. He lost his initials on his crown, though. Still, he promises to be a great dwarf when finished.
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Post by stevelortz on Jun 17, 2009 4:36:00 GMT -9
You're a fast learner, Kricket. Love this figure!
Have fun! Steve
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Post by onemonkeybeau on Jun 17, 2009 8:08:06 GMT -9
Yeah!
That's the stuff!
Nice work!
onemonkeybeau
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Post by squirmydad on Jun 17, 2009 9:23:59 GMT -9
Very cool! and welcome to the group!
I don't need to add anything that hasn't been said already. It is worth forgetting everything you know about foreshortening and perspective, it just doesn't work right with the figures.
I like your loose drawing style for establishing the designs, and the nice chunky style of the hands, they will look perfect scaled down.
I really look forward to seeing more designs from you. JIM
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Post by kricket on Jun 17, 2009 21:48:13 GMT -9
Silly me, forgot about the back! NOW I can get down to coloring! btw - I love cloaks. Such a nice cheat to skimp out on the back, heh. jabbro Thanks for pointing that out, missed it! Very cool! and welcome to the group! I don't need to add anything that hasn't been said already. It is worth forgetting everything you know about foreshortening and perspective, it just doesn't work right with the figures. I like your loose drawing style for establishing the designs, and the nice chunky style of the hands, they will look perfect scaled down. I really look forward to seeing more designs from you. JIM onemonk Thanks, I plan to do quite a few more of these. I'm planning a nice lil D&D adventure for the group I play with and I'd rather draw all my own critters than spend a ton on plastic. It's funny, while teaching myself to draw the past few years I've been trying to draw more and more perspective/foreshortening. Gonna be a lil hard toning that back
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Post by kricket on Jun 19, 2009 9:18:56 GMT -9
Yay, all done! I'll be sure to post a pic once I've glued it together and cut it out.
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Post by Dagger on Jun 19, 2009 9:36:16 GMT -9
Wow... you did a very, very good job of coloring it...
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Post by jabbro on Jun 19, 2009 9:37:14 GMT -9
Nicely done, Kricket. With all that gloss, he must be spending all his between quest time polishing his armor. Looks like the back is missing the blue shading tint. It is easy enough to miss when you are working with that kind of detail. He turned out very good. ;D
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Post by kricket on Jun 19, 2009 11:13:22 GMT -9
Thanks Dagger, Jabbro. He makes his own armor and weapons (at the cost of XP!) so he makes sure to take care of his equipment. Many, many layers of turtle wax. The blue shading is actually meant to be light given off from the rune. But still, I really did rush the back. Didn't color many of the ink lines like I did for the front as well as other shortcuts. If I didnt finish it this morning I wouldn't have time to glue it/cut it for my D&D game tomorrow
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Post by stevelortz on Jun 19, 2009 13:04:07 GMT -9
For a first figure, kricket, you color like a pro!
Have fun! Steve
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Post by godofrandomness on Jun 19, 2009 14:48:38 GMT -9
Looks great! My only comment is on the knees. Thie spikes need a black outline, as they get blended into the rest of the knee otherwise.
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Post by jabbro on Jun 23, 2009 11:08:53 GMT -9
I know how it can be with a time crunch. Least you got him in there in time for your game. Hope he was well received.
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Post by onemonkeybeau on Jun 23, 2009 12:44:29 GMT -9
Hey Kricket!
The more I look at this guy the more I like him...
I finally figured out why I like your drawing style too... your style reminds me of an old CCG I used to play called MagiNation. I always loved to artwork on those dang cards and have always thought the characters would make excellent cardfigs.
Keep 'em coming, my friend... keep 'em coming!
onemonkeybeau
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Post by kricket on Jun 23, 2009 13:31:57 GMT -9
I got a lot of great comments on him from around the board, thanks!
I haven't heard of Magination, I'll have to look that up. As for more, they're comin, check out the Crystal Knight thread!
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Post by godofrandomness on Jun 23, 2009 14:47:50 GMT -9
Hey Kricket! The more I look at this guy the more I like him... I finally figured out why I like your drawing style too... your style reminds me of an old CCG I used to play called MagiNation. I always loved to artwork on those dang cards and have always thought the characters would make excellent cardfigs. Keep 'em coming, my friend... keep 'em coming! onemonkeybeau OMG!!! Somebody else has played magination! It was a prettty big game for me and a few friends. One friend was a registered judge up until the company went bankrupt
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Post by onemonkeybeau on Jun 23, 2009 20:39:22 GMT -9
Oh heck yeah!
I loved (actually still do) that game.
I just busted out my cards a few weeks ago and got that feeling all over again.
I hear they're remaking the game... not sure if it's a complete redo or just a reboot. I know there's a cartoon that is pretty well received... here's to more of that AWESOME game!
onemonkeybeau
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Post by godofrandomness on Jun 23, 2009 23:25:01 GMT -9
Oh heck yeah! I loved (actually still do) that game. I just busted out my cards a few weeks ago and got that feeling all over again. I hear they're remaking the game... not sure if it's a complete redo or just a reboot. I know there's a cartoon that is pretty well received... here's to more of that AWESOME game! onemonkeybeau where did you hear of this? Last I heard, the company who owned magination went under a while back and no one knew of anything else.
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Post by kane on Jun 24, 2009 9:13:48 GMT -9
Well, SOMEONE owns the rights since their is a cartoon. Wonder if it migh even be an entirely new game. Always heard good things about the original.
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