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Post by squirmydad on Jul 2, 2009 19:39:33 GMT -9
I have thought about getting this several times, but never got it.
I think it would be a handy tool to at least get some poses to trace, so you could keep the right proportions, or at least a guide to make drawing other reference figures.
I don't know how hard or time consuming it is to use, so I was wondering if anyone messed around with it here. JIM
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Post by ghostgirl on Jul 2, 2009 20:11:59 GMT -9
my 2 cents..
it might be of some use if you were doing really detailed paintings or scenes... but your 30mm scale figures probably arent going to benefit from having exact dimensions available for reference... and the extra time (learning the software + the posing/lighting) spent would only set you back even more than random internet browsing.
it can also be a very addictive money pit...
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Post by abaddonwormwood on Jul 3, 2009 3:40:16 GMT -9
Skip it for all the reasons that GG stated. I mucked around with it a while ago - even did a Japanese school girl toting a gun mini - this was before Arion Games got kicking. Will try and find. End of the day they (the figures) look plastic and you have to spend more time photoshopping it to make it look good. As for added benifits in poses.... put the money to a Craft Robo or something. *Edit* found her. Lord Abaddon of Wormwood
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Post by Floyd on Jul 3, 2009 7:13:39 GMT -9
1st let me say nice job Ab. That's a really nice looking Poser figure! Kudos! ;D __ Jim If you could possibly exaggerate the proportions so that when reduced they would look reasonable at 30mm scale, then you could pose and trace and then detail them by hand. Seems a lot of extra work when you are pretty proficient by hand drawing them. You ever pick up some figure sculpting reference guides? Those are pretty good reads. Or even look at the musculature of old master sculptors like Michelangelo, Donatello or even Rodin? Some of the modern Miniature Sculptors have some amazing work in progress shots showing cumulative muscle groups. I particularly like this guys stuff, Scott Watanabe is an all around artist... Illustration, Sculpture, production designer. He has some great imaginative creature designs. And his sculpture has this exaggerated expressive quality that I find so likable in our 28-30mm miniatures hobby.
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Post by squirmydad on Jul 3, 2009 7:26:25 GMT -9
Thanks, I was just hoping I could do some reference poses the lazy way, but it looks more time consuming that would be worth the effort. I really do need to do some traceable master human poses. I think I only have about 5-6 distinct leg poses, that can be flipped, same for the torso, two poses then flipped. The arms I have found can be posed in a variety of angles.
I think I'll work out some standard poses at double scale. Something useful for any genre. These will be used for trace drawing of the double up figure for inking and be more for rough pose that the final actual pose. It just seems I have to figure out the anatomy every time I draw a human figure and I'd rather have a reference figure to trace from.
I'll post the pose templates I come up with. I have done some before, but have been unhappy with the results. I'll see if I can come up with something more useful. JIM
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Post by kane on Jul 3, 2009 8:37:53 GMT -9
WTF?! It links to Scot"thingy"anabe.
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Post by squirmydad on Jul 3, 2009 8:50:58 GMT -9
It's that annoying censor function of the forum software, I figured out how to disable it. I'm not overly worried about language here, because I'll just remove and block members who use abusive foul language.
All those "thingy" changes should not happen from now on. JIM
edit: Floyd, I modified the link so it points to the right place. Very cool artwork, I like his loose style of drawing. I think I just need to do nothing but sketch and draw for a week or so just get the muscle memory back. I know I can draw good anatomy, I just tend to take so much time between drawing that I get rusty and forget how to draw muscle groups.
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Post by kane on Jul 3, 2009 9:47:48 GMT -9
Oh right...Scott Watanabe. Yeah, I can see how that would set off the language filter. Took me a minute, though! LOL
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Post by anvil242 on Jul 3, 2009 14:35:57 GMT -9
I have poser and use it fairly often. I'm no artist, though. You can view my crap at picasa under anvil or anvil242. I'm with the others, it's much more work than a pencil and paper.
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Post by glennwilliams on Sept 23, 2009 12:37:08 GMT -9
I have two problems with it:
REALLY steep learning curve and a very bizarre desire to put data files where it wants them, not where I want them.
I had a pc motherboard crash a week or two ago and had to upgrade to a 64bit Vista PC, finding all my Poser files was a pain--even worse when you realize each and every one of the suckers cost money.
You might try DAZ 3D Studio--it's free and is essentially Poser-lite.
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