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Post by afet on Dec 3, 2011 10:04:32 GMT -9
LOST REICH officially releases in February. Tom decided to use Kickstarter as a pre-sale tool to give everyone the opportunity to get some additional goodies for the game. The basic game will be $10 when released, so even if you opt for that level of support now, you still get the game AND your name in the book as a supporter! If you pledge more, you can get access to limited edition mechs and other goodies. So go check it out, they have a video up showing some things you haven't seen before.
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Post by Dave on Dec 3, 2011 11:41:29 GMT -9
And blasting well past its goal in no time at all. Awesome!
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Post by nikloveland on Dec 3, 2011 12:24:14 GMT -9
Yeah, making $1,000 dollars in a single day (well he hasn't made it yet but raising $1,000) for a PDF product is crazy.
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Post by dragnoz on Dec 3, 2011 15:48:46 GMT -9
What an awesome idea, Im wondering if there is a similar site to kick starter but for non-US residents?
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Post by cowboyleland on Dec 3, 2011 18:14:18 GMT -9
It is interesting to look at the distribution of supporters. There are actually more $25 dollar guys than $10 dudes and the $200 spots are almost gone. Those who like it, like it a lot! (It does look pretty cool.)
So are we all contemplating kickstarting some figure lines?
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Post by dragnoz on Dec 4, 2011 1:14:07 GMT -9
Well it will definitely help to show interest and support, its never easy to develop models and figures and not really knowing if its needed or even wanted.
Unfortunately i cant use that Kick-starter site as I'm not american, so will need to find other ways to do it.
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Post by Parduz on Dec 4, 2011 3:46:47 GMT -9
I may gave miss something ...but.... there's no rules preview, no clues on what the game will be like.... FDG is a "name" in paper gaming industry, but is his name 200$ worthy for his FIRST boardgame? I don't get it...
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Post by gilius on Dec 4, 2011 5:53:08 GMT -9
I may gave miss something ...but.... there's no rules preview, no clues on what the game will be like.... FDG is a "name" in paper gaming industry, but is his name 200$ worthy for his FIRST boardgame? I don't get it... I thought the same... some more information about the rules would be very welcome otherwise I'll just wait for the release.
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Post by okumarts on Dec 4, 2011 6:40:32 GMT -9
Looks like a great way to raise funds for projects. As a Canadian, I can't do it though which is too bad.
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Post by oldschooldm on Dec 4, 2011 7:37:43 GMT -9
I may gave miss something ...but.... there's no rules preview, no clues on what the game will be like.... FDG is a "name" in paper gaming industry, but is his name 200$ worthy for his FIRST boardgame? I don't get it... It's called patronage, and the concept has been around since people started selling art. People aren't paying $200.00 for the game, they are paying for the attention of the artist, and to have that attention reflected to all his customers/fans.
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Post by Adam Souza on Dec 4, 2011 7:39:25 GMT -9
Parduz, Gillius, FDG has some pretty fanatical support. The game already exists and has been play tested, so I imagine some of those heavy supporters are already playing the game and are paying to get immortalized in the game with an official character named after them and exclusive mechs.
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Post by Parduz on Dec 4, 2011 7:52:41 GMT -9
I may gave miss something ...but.... there's no rules preview, no clues on what the game will be like.... FDG is a "name" in paper gaming industry, but is his name 200$ worthy for his FIRST boardgame? I don't get it... It's called patronage, and the concept has been around since people started selling art. People aren't paying $200.00 for the game, they are paying for the attention of the artist, and to have that attention reflected to all his customers/fans. I understand patronage, but not in this case. What FDG are doing are not a 2x3m superhevayduty map, paint, paper model or other things they: - do from longtimes - are just art They're doing a boardgame, which is not (only) art but also requires: - good mechanics - good balance - good rulebooks all things that, for what i know, they're trying for the first time. ...it's just like if someone patron a 3D modeller to develop a new real, working car: the premises are not the same from the previous to the new task. This is just my point of view, anyway...which is a gamer/customer one. Tell me more about the mechanics, what is new, what is better, and why should i buy another Mech game and i'll be able to decide if i'm interested. A recent case is "D-Day Dice", a solo, free, P&P game available from BGG that it is been officially published making it Multiplayer: they used KickStarter and the ones that partecipate knew very well what they was supporting.
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Post by Adam Souza on Dec 4, 2011 9:21:39 GMT -9
I don't think anyone needs to defend their position on this.
Personally, I'm not contributing towards it. It's a novel idea but, like Parduz, I would like to know about the game play, etc... before I bought it. If I have a use for the mechs, which I currently don't, it may be worth the $10 just for the models. To be honest though, if I could get a character based on me into a WOTC D&D supplement or a White Wolf book I'd probably shell out a few bucks for it ;D
Contributor or not, using kickstarter is a brilliant financial move. They've managed to secure $2,576 for 60 sales of a $10 game. They generated hype and and an additional $1,976 for doing a few recolors and adding peoples names to a PDF.
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Post by josedominguez on Dec 4, 2011 9:51:39 GMT -9
If it promotes paper wargaming, then I'm all for it A bit of faith in a company can only make things appear faster
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Post by Parduz on Dec 4, 2011 9:53:17 GMT -9
Yeah, about me, i was just talking. Sharing reasonings always open my mind.
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Post by nikloveland on Dec 4, 2011 11:15:42 GMT -9
So are we all contemplating kickstarting some figure lines? Anybody who wants to pay $100 can tell Aaron what set to work on next ;D
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Post by kiladecus on Dec 4, 2011 12:57:36 GMT -9
Well, I think it is a way of making money fast. I could use a new laptop... and I have hit some "walls" because of memory issues. If anyone wants to donate to me, I will send you my models personally and even sign them if need be.
I can see where people do it, however, I have bought many items without any "incentive."
If Glenn Williams said he won't do a model unless he gets 100 people to send him $10.00, I would send in my $10, just because it is him.
I had my name mentioned in a couple gamebooks and never had to send anyone one penny!!
Here is my thought (for what it is worth):
I build my models because I want/need them. Once they start hitting the market, I see it this way... I have the files made, so whay not sell them? If someone requests a model, then we will worry about it then.
Ok, I will bow out the way I entered in...
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Post by Dave on Dec 4, 2011 13:39:28 GMT -9
So are we all contemplating kickstarting some figure lines? Yep. Been kicking the idea around for a while (harhar). I'm sure you remember that other thread about this kind of fundraising, from several months ago. This is exactly the sort of thing that I didn't think would work for papercraft designers. I'm glad I was wrong.
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Post by okumarts on Dec 4, 2011 15:18:53 GMT -9
Kiladecus, that's it exactly. The majority of my minis come from a simple question: What miniatures do I need and would be impossible or difficult to find? I make what I would like to buy and use when I'm gaming. I'm also really enjoying the process which is a win win I think.
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Post by dragnoz on Dec 5, 2011 0:04:06 GMT -9
OK found this non-US kickstarter type website for us non-americans. www.indiegogo.com/I'm going to try it out for some of the stuff im working on.
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