I've started work on a cannon crew for a dwarf cannon. So far I just have sketches for the crew. These are actually mostly from an illustration in the Bellicose rule book. The loader and spotter are pretty much just tracings from that drawing. The fuse lighter I just drew yesterday.
Any suggestions are welcome. Especially ideas for a dwarf cannon since I haven't started drawing that yet. I don't really like the way I did the cannon in the illustration, so I am looking to do a different design that is much better.
Post by old squirmydad on Apr 22, 2012 8:51:40 GMT -9
That cannon looks like it would jump out of the cart and squash the crew when fired.
The barrel looks good, needs a sturdier looking cart with a tail for balance, heftier wheels (those are too light), and heavy rope or metal strap to secure it to the cart. A little fold up triangle stack of cannonballs and a powder keg or two would complete the scene nicely.
Post by stevelortz on Apr 22, 2012 14:57:07 GMT -9
I made several dwarf sets for lance & Laser. One was the dwarven signal corps, which consisted of a telescope on a stand, a dwarf peering through the telescope, and another dwarf using wig-wag flags.
When I used them in play, the dwarf with the wig-wag flags would be posted up near the front to act as a forward observer. The dwarf with the telescope would be positioned by the cannon, and the use of a forward observer would give the dwarf cannon a better chance of hitting what it was shooting at.
Have fun! Steve
Last Edit: Apr 22, 2012 14:58:04 GMT -9 by stevelortz
My Dwarfs are all the hexagonal-runic-geometric slaves of fashion. They certainly would make a hexagonal cannon, even if the bore is round and a hexagonal form would induce stress failures in field. "Easier to stockpile" they would say...
I thought I would put this to the forum, since I am working on the cannon full swing now.
How deluxe should I go with the cannon? Full 3d modelling like I did on the human catapult, or a hybrid of sorts with 3d and 2d parts. I do want to make the cannon itself a rounded barrel, but I'm just wondering if I should also make the side supports and wheels also fully 3d, or if people would be happy with 2d on those parts? 3d will take some more work, but I want it to blend ok on the same battlefield as my other war machines.
Any ideas and input on this are welcome. I'll be working pretty heavily on this for the next couple of weeks. The plan is to finish the design and artwork by the end of May.
I want it to blend ok on the same battlefield as my other war machines.
Looks as you already answered your own question!
But seriously - I'm afraid that people would prefer 3D or at least 2.5D version whenever possible. Although personally I'd vote for... flat (youp, 2D!) version. Look - it's a matter of convention - If I'd like 3D I'd stick with quality metal or plastic models -- anyway all these figures acts de facto as kinda trigger for imagination for me and if 2.5D/3D then scenery is acceptable only.
But again that's me and I can understood this 3D/spatial pursuit.
Well, in fact I'm having the same "Shakespeare" dilemma ie "3D or not 3D" after announcing artillery for Pirates... Actually I have flat versions already so it looked kinda safe and even easy to remodel 2D into 2.5D -- but somehow I can't force myself to start this project... so when I red that you are considering full 3D wheels... I almost panicked!!!
Mh.... it depends: i'd go for a 2.5D. With just a couple of "cross" junctions and a couple of folds you can have a good looking model. I have no problem with the paper minis being flat, but i've always felt the flat "war machines" as if they're loosing some "power", some "threat"..... hope that this makes sense.
Post by cowboyleland on May 13, 2012 17:31:03 GMT -9
Somebody mentioned a hexagonal barrel for Dwarven cannons. That would be easy to model with three folds, then just drop wheels down the sides. Put a hex muzzle on the front if you like. Check out my ships cannons over at my projects thread if I'm not being clear.
On the other hand, maybe it's the herd that is crazy.
Probably too late, but since this is about cardboard warriors I expect my mini's to be 2,5d at the most. If I wanted 3d I'd go for Metal or Platsic mini's In fact I had to quite a lot of work flattening the catapult. In 3D it simply looks ridiculous next to flat crew. The suggestion of adding a spotter with flags is nice. One could come up with very nice rules for him.
I've decide to have both versions available. It will be easy to do so, and then you may choose your poison. I can certainly appreciate that there are modelers who don't want to do a full 3d modeling job. Although it's still way faster and cheaper than metal or plastic.
The crew are now finished. No pic at the moment since I'm not at home, but I'll post a preview later. Now it's time to finish up the cannon itself. That's a project I just need to immerse in, and work out all the little details.
I'm so slow. Life has been very busy latley, but we trained a new guy at work, so my shifts won't be as crazy, and maybe things will settle down a little for me, I can get more done.
The cannon is finally done. It should be released soon. I gave it over to Nik to finish up the layouts and such for release. I think people will find that I may have made the design a little more complicated than it needed to be. Not sure why I did that. I just envisioned it a certain way and went for it. I will get some pics from Nik's camera and post them.
We went again to Saltcon, where I finished the cannon and built it for the first time at our booth there. A lot of interest this year in paper minis. More than usual. I think the world may be getting ready to receive paper minis into their hearts. ;D
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