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Post by mesper on Jun 9, 2014 8:25:38 GMT -9
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Post by wildagreenbough on Jun 9, 2014 9:59:47 GMT -9
Dwarves, - scary short bearded people (including their womenfolk!)
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Post by migibb on Jun 9, 2014 13:41:22 GMT -9
mesper - are you trying to take *all* my money?? lol!! Is this a permanent price reduction or a limited time offer? Just waiting for some more cash coming in midweek
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Post by mesper on Jun 11, 2014 16:21:52 GMT -9
<..> are you trying to take *all* my money?? lol!! Is this a permanent price reduction or a limited time offer? Limited ofc, but easy it will last for a while Dwarves, - scary short bearded people (including their womenfolk!) YEP!
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Post by mproteau (Paper Realms) on Jun 11, 2014 16:24:30 GMT -9
Unsee... UNSEE... DAMNIT UN-SEE!!! Why isn't this working?!?
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Post by wildagreenbough on Jun 11, 2014 17:22:30 GMT -9
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Post by WackyAnne on Jun 11, 2014 19:10:47 GMT -9
Thank you, Mesper, you can always draw a laugh from me! Someday soon you'll have to come out with a collected set of these oddities - perhaps the Heatstroke Special
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Post by dungeonmistress on Jun 11, 2014 19:39:10 GMT -9
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Post by wildagreenbough on Jun 11, 2014 22:09:16 GMT -9
Heatstroke! That's what it is! I've been out in the sun too long today and now I'm seeing things - please tell me I'm seeing things and that's not really a dwarf in a bikini! Please? dungeonmistress, there's a certain line of thinking about Dwarves, mostly promoted by Terry Pratchett and his Discworld series of books, that female Dwarves have beards too which can make it difficult to tell whether a Dwarf might be a male or a female.
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Post by dungeonmistress on Jun 12, 2014 13:42:23 GMT -9
Yes, I am very aware of that (I happen to love Terry Pratchett), but that doesn't mean I'm prepared to see dwarves, female or otherwise, in Bikinis! For heavens sake! Have pity on a poor girl!
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Post by cowboyleland on Jun 12, 2014 15:00:40 GMT -9
I'm pretty sure the original AD&D Players Handbook mentions "rumours" of female dwarves with beards. That would pre-date the Discworld novels. Apparently their is a mention of bearded female dwarves somewhere in Tolkien, but I don't remember it myself.
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Post by WackyAnne on Jun 12, 2014 18:50:02 GMT -9
If the womenfolk have to have beards, I think I speak for many of us in preferring the rumour that their beards are fine and downy as angel hair - not like Parduz lost in the wilderness for a year
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Post by wildagreenbough on Jun 12, 2014 20:09:15 GMT -9
If the womenfolk have to have beards, I think I speak for many of us in preferring the rumour that their beards are fine and downy as angel hair - not like Parduz lost in the wilderness for a year The very thought of that raises somewhat disturbing images within my mind. Some of the cottage industry type metal miniature makers have tackled the issue of Dwarven women and have done it very well too. No beards, but with the expected stocky proportions and an identifiable feminine quality. I do agree about the bikini by the way, not to mention that the one in the picture is too much lacking in iron and bronze to be believable. Finer and more downy beards? - I must agree, - and I think they'd be better groomed too.
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Post by mesper on Jun 12, 2014 23:00:57 GMT -9
<...> the one in the picture is too much lacking in iron and bronze to be believable. Finer and more downy beards? - I must agree, - and I think they'd be better groomed too. Err... this Bikini-Dwarf was a joke (BTW this picture was already posted in some thread) Anyway, here's another one - now with better (more) armour - with some short chainmail and bronze bra! Oh and I know... beard is most probably still not enough, how to say... fancy? Mirror, mirror on the wall...
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Post by wildagreenbough on Jun 12, 2014 23:08:08 GMT -9
Crikey.......
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Post by migibb on Jun 13, 2014 1:21:40 GMT -9
Getting back to the original point of the thread... (Where's the fun in that? I hear you say!!) Have picked up the dwarves I needed, thank you very much mesper. And mighty fine they are too - I have not spent any time wondering about their chromosomal make-up however..... lol!! So feel free to put the price back up whenever you like!! lol!
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Post by dungeonmistress on Jun 13, 2014 6:53:26 GMT -9
MY eyes! My eyes are burning! mesper! I thought you liked me? Uh-oh! Do you hear that? That's the sound of a hundred dainty, boot clad feet marching up to your door! And they are not happy!
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Post by wyvern on Jun 13, 2014 9:36:06 GMT -9
I'm pretty sure the original AD&D Players Handbook mentions "rumours" of female dwarves with beards. That would pre-date the Discworld novels. Apparently their is a mention of bearded female dwarves somewhere in Tolkien, but I don't remember it myself. AD&D - From the original AD&D "Dungeon Masters Guide" (1979), p.16: Dwarves ... Considering that their women tend to be bearded too, it is not surprising that some dwarves are somewhat forward in their behavior towards females not so adorned.Tolkien - From "The Lord of the Rings" (1955), Appendix A.III, Durin's Folk: It was said by Gimli that there are few dwarf-women, probably no more than a third of the whole people. They seldom walk abroad except at great need. They are in voice and appearance, and in garb if they must go on a journey, so like to the dwarf-men that the eyes and ears of other peoples cannot tell them apart. This has given rise to the foolish opinion among Men that there are no dwarf-women, and that the Dwarves 'grow out of stone'.
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Post by wildagreenbough on Jun 13, 2014 15:30:27 GMT -9
An interesting illustration of a female Dwarf I found on the 'net. The artist's name is Gregor Roffalski.
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Post by WackyAnne on Jun 13, 2014 16:49:33 GMT -9
Tolkien - From "The Lord of the Rings" (1955), Appendix A.III, Durin's Folk: It was said by Gimli that there are few dwarf-women, probably no more than a third of the whole people. They seldom walk abroad except at great need. They are in voice and appearance, and in garb if they must go on a journey, so like to the dwarf-men that the eyes and ears of other peoples cannot tell them apart. This has given rise to the foolish opinion among Men that there are no dwarf-women, and that the Dwarves 'grow out of stone'. Thanks Wyvern! It's been a few years since I've retread my Tolkien (first read at age 10, 28 years ago now!), but that is indeed strong in my memory. I just wish I could remember where that dainty beard info came from, I think someone here might have posted about it months ago...
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Post by wyvern on Jun 14, 2014 3:50:10 GMT -9
It's been a few years since I've retread my Tolkien (first read at age 10, 28 years ago now!), but that is indeed strong in my memory. Oddly, it was about this time of year I first read "Lord of the Rings". I was getting up at four in the morning, just so I could read another couple of hundred pages before school. Quite by chance, given I knew little about it at the time, I came to the charge of the Rohirrim at Minas Tirith just after midsummer sunrise one morning, the low sunlight streaming across the room, and as you may guess, that still sticks in my mind nearly forty years on! Did a special project in my penultimate year of high school on the languages of Middle Earth too, but didn't continue on down the "Unfinished Tales" route subsequently. It's still one of the very few fantasy novels I've kept going back to to re-read over the years though. Disturbed by all the Human mores being foisted onto the Dwarves here though, especially onto their women-folk I always really liked the idea that only Dwarves could tell their own sexes apart. And I'd guess Dwarven women probably wouldn't go much for bikini waxing... Wouldn't it have been delicious if Gimli had turned out to be Glรณin's daughter instead?
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Post by WackyAnne on Jun 14, 2014 4:54:41 GMT -9
That would have made John Rhys Davies' casting all the more disturbing...
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Post by squirmydad on Jun 22, 2014 9:56:47 GMT -9
Tolkien - From "The Lord of the Rings" (1955), Appendix A.III, Durin's Folk: It was said by Gimli that there are few dwarf-women, probably no more than a third of the whole people. They seldom walk abroad except at great need. They are in voice and appearance, and in garb if they must go on a journey, so like to the dwarf-men that the eyes and ears of other peoples cannot tell them apart. This has given rise to the foolish opinion among Men that there are no dwarf-women, and that the Dwarves 'grow out of stone'. Thanks Wyvern! It's been a few years since I've retread my Tolkien (first read at age 10, 28 years ago now!), but that is indeed strong in my memory. I just wish I could remember where that dainty beard info came from, I think someone here might have posted about it months ago... Likewise, 10 years old. My Mom handed me the Hobbit to read as she was tired of me reading comic books. I read The Hobbit in four-1/2 hours and handed it back to her, "Did he write anything else?" So she gave the LOTR books, I read all four constantly six times over until she hid them from me. Then I found the Silmarillion, which I've only read twice. Good sale, found a set I didn't have. I need to build more Dwarves, I like the look of them, I just rarely find game rules for them that I enjoy.
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Post by dungeonmistress on Jun 22, 2014 17:07:34 GMT -9
Yeah, mesper does great Dwarves and Half-Orcs!
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