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Post by pavaro on Jun 25, 2014 12:22:50 GMT -9
I have a few questions about sketches and models. Please, help me in determining parameters. I have sketches in height about 15 centimeters. My final figurines have about 52 mm. What parameters resolution (DPI) I should choose at scanning and then printing? 200 or 300 DPI? Next question. Better paint on original size (15 cm) and next reduce sketch? Maybe first the sketch reduce and then paint (5,2 cm)? Speaking of painting I had in mind the colors, chiaroscuro and different effects.
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Post by glennwilliams on Jun 26, 2014 5:26:53 GMT -9
I scan at the highest resolution possible, then massage everything in PhotoShop. However, I use two different resolutions for products: 150DPI for terrain and 300 for figures. As to the sketches, I'll leave that for the real artists live Mesper, Kiladecus and Okumarts.
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Post by pavaro on Jun 26, 2014 10:54:01 GMT -9
I scan at the highest resolution possible, then massage everything in PhotoShop. However, I use two different resolutions for products: 150DPI for terrain and 300 for figures. As to the sketches, I'll leave that for the real artists live Mesper, Kiladecus and Okumarts. Thank for answer. Do you use this DPI to scanning and print? So what sentence have real artists?
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Post by mesper on Jun 27, 2014 11:26:07 GMT -9
<...> Better paint on original size (15 cm) and next reduce sketch? <...> IMHO this
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Post by pavaro on Jun 27, 2014 22:33:32 GMT -9
<...> Better paint on original size (15 cm) and next reduce sketch? <...> IMHO this Sorry Mesper but you said once that better reduce size before paint... Maybe I understood bad. Please tell me which DPI I should use?
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Post by Parduz on Jun 27, 2014 23:15:28 GMT -9
Pavaro, scan at the highest DPI possible. Whatever you'll do after, reducing for the final product is always better than enlarging, unless you'll work with vectors.
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Post by WackyAnne on Jun 28, 2014 1:57:52 GMT -9
mesper pavaro Are you not both Polish? Perhaps you'd be better off clarifying it in your own language. And then I can try to guess what you are saying
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Post by WackyAnne on Jun 28, 2014 2:01:16 GMT -9
P.S. pavaro I love the new tree that you are showing at your website! Can you tell us when it will be available for download?
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Post by pavaro on Jun 28, 2014 10:50:04 GMT -9
Pavaro, scan at the highest DPI possible. Whatever you'll do after, reducing for the final product is always better than enlarging, unless you'll work with vectors. I will take your hint as guidelines. I wonder if it is not for high resolution (300 DPI) for figurines 52 mm. mesper pavaro Are you not both Polish? Perhaps you'd be better off clarifying it in your own language. And then I can try to guess what you are saying Yes, we are Poles. I wanted maintain conversations in the adopted language on the forum. Maybe in this way others will add yours ideas. P.S. pavaro I love the new tree that you are showing at your website! Can you tell us when it will be available for download? It is very nice that somebody is interesting my projects. Thanks you very much. I don't know if will be available download. I would like sell this set (not only this set) to earn on website hosting. I will see if will be more interest and then I will consider free download.
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Post by Parduz on Jun 28, 2014 12:02:28 GMT -9
Pavaro, scan at the highest DPI possible. Whatever you'll do after, reducing for the final product is always better than enlarging, unless you'll work with vectors. I will take your hint as guidelines. I wonder if it is not for high resolution (300 DPI) for figurines 52 mm. Not sure to understand you... if you're asking if 300dpi is good for 52mm then yes..... 300dpi is wonderful for whatever you have to print: 52mm, with 300dpi, just means an image with height=614 pixels, 30mm are 354 pixels. Whatever it is, the details will be sharp and crispy 'cause the high resolution.
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Post by pavaro on Jun 28, 2014 12:16:58 GMT -9
I will take your hint as guidelines. I wonder if it is not for high resolution (300 DPI) for figurines 52 mm. Not sure to understand you... if you're asking if 300dpi is good for 52mm then yes..... 300dpi is wonderful for whatever you have to print: 52mm, with 300dpi, just means an image with height=614 pixels, 30mm are 354 pixels. Whatever it is, the details will be sharp and crispy 'cause the high resolution. About this is the answer which I wanted. Thank you.
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Post by pavaro on Jan 11, 2015 10:57:12 GMT -9
What do you think about the drawing in 600 dpi and 600 dpi print?
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Post by wyvern on Jan 12, 2015 1:33:39 GMT -9
What do you think about the drawing in 600 dpi and 600 dpi print? My understanding is that this level would be pointless for printing paper models and minis, because, and despite manufacturer's claims to the contrary, the best printout most home printers can achieve is around 150 DPI anyway. There is an argument for retaining 300 DPI as the preferred level of detail, as there may be a marginal difference in the final printout quality on some printers/printer systems, and particularly so for professional printing systems. Plus it makes the customer feel happier! Computer drawn images should be done at the highest possible quality level however, as several people already commented for scanned images (and assuming you're meaning the original artwork by "drawing"). The quality needs to start high because it will likely degrade with every format change (including size reductions) to get it into a product a customer can download and print, for example. There was a detailed discussion of the whole DPI limitations/possibilities subject towards the end of page three of this topic (direct link to that page) which you may find it helpful to see. Scroll down till you reach the glennwilliams post from 1 April 2014, which really starts the discussion of this aspect.
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Post by pavaro on Jan 12, 2015 11:07:16 GMT -9
wyvern Thanks for help. I considered some variants when I did figurines. 1. To draw a figurine 30 mm, in 600 DPI; 2. To draw a figurine 60 mm, in 600 DPI; 3. To draw a figurine 60 mm, in 300 DPI. Which will be better variant? Or maybe none of the above?
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Post by wyvern on Jan 13, 2015 4:04:09 GMT -9
I considered some variants when I did figurines. 1. To draw a figurine 30 mm, in 600 DPI; 2. To draw a figurine 60 mm, in 600 DPI; 3. To draw a figurine 60 mm, in 300 DPI. Which will be better variant? Or maybe none of the above? I've done very little figurine and modelwork design compared to many of the artists and designers whose work graces this Forum and elsewhere, so they may have different opinions. However, the factors I've relied on have little to do with printout-specific values like these, and more to do with what original size artwork I'm comfortable working with at any given time (subject to the limitations of, for example, the available definition of imported textures), plus the need to make sometimes very tiny changes to lines and polygons to get the scaled-down version to "look right". So long as the figure proportions are accurate, the actual size in the original drawing doesn't matter very much, providing it's significantly larger than what the final printout version will be, while most computer drawing programs allow varying levels of control over the file size/type, and thus DPI quality, of the final exported image.
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Post by pavaro on Jan 13, 2015 6:36:29 GMT -9
Thanks for interesting my case.
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Post by pavaro on Feb 6, 2015 22:57:22 GMT -9
I did not want to create a new thread because I have a little question. What do you think about the proportions men and women in 30mm scale? It is small scale and difficult is draw gender differences (I mean growth). My question is this: a women to draw slightly reduced, whether equal to the growth of men?
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Post by cowboyleland on Feb 7, 2015 19:12:28 GMT -9
According to Wikipedia; the difference in height between men and women is less than 10% It seems that if you gave most males an eye line of 30mm you could reasonably give most females a 28mm eye line. Of course, it could be fun to have bigger females either as mutations or, as representatives of larger races.
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Post by wyvern on Feb 8, 2015 2:56:47 GMT -9
At 30mm scale, the differences probably aren't that great, though human females in general tend to have a smaller frame overall (limb thicknesses and body part physical sizes, as well as height). Clothing will conceal many of these differences, however.
Given that for minis, such figures will usually be drawn to a larger scale first anyway, where the differences will be more obvious, it may be worth experimenting to better determine your own opinion as to what's more practical here for the minis you want to design. There are also sites online with human life drawing models, clothed and naked, which may give you a better impression of the range of variation in physical proportions between the sexes.
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Post by pavaro on Feb 8, 2015 8:55:44 GMT -9
I try draw my models in 30mm scale. You have right that this size is ungrateful for drawing details. They can disappear. I like warhammer fantasy figurines and I trying to imitate their appearance. I draw small models becouse this give me better imagination. But it is more difficult for capture sex of details. Soon I share information about stages my work. As always thanks for help.
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