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Post by wisdomknight on Jul 2, 2014 13:00:16 GMT -9
What is the most missing types of mini that people need to fill? I know everything under the sun in Fantasy has been done 10x over.
I am going to get a line of minis out very soon just wondering what needed the most in general.
Also is there an interest for precut minis?
What would you be willing to pay for thick glossy photo minis, with plastic stands, and adhesive backs?
Im not sure if this post is against the rules, I apologize if it is. Please delete if that's the case.
Just looking to see whats needed the most in this community.
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Post by wisdomknight on Jul 2, 2014 13:01:22 GMT -9
I wish there was a POLL option
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Post by cadia134 on Jul 2, 2014 13:53:14 GMT -9
Ask this question 10 time and you will get 12 different answers.
I am on the look out, in no particular order for Fantasy monsters, Mecha, and Fantasy and Sci- fi army units.
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Post by wisdomknight on Jul 2, 2014 14:12:41 GMT -9
Ask this question 10 time and you will get 12 different answers. I am on the look out, in no particular order for Fantasy monsters, Mecha, and Fantasy and Sci- fi army units. Isnt there like almost every fantasy monster you can think done 2d and 3d?
Also Ive seen many Sci-fi army units as well.
I pretty much asked this for answers that were genres that weren't over done yet desired.
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Post by glennwilliams on Jul 2, 2014 15:05:13 GMT -9
Sci-fi crew-served heavy weapons.
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Post by mproteau (Paper Realms) on Jul 2, 2014 15:20:41 GMT -9
Isnt there like almost every fantasy monster you can think done 2d and 3d? Well, I've got lots of sets with things like zombies, but each artist has a different style, so it adds some variety to what you're playing against. And, right now, I've got 10 monster-manual-esque books behind me. I'm pretty sure I don't have minis that represent them all. I'm just sayin'. I love monster standees.
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Post by wisdomknight on Jul 2, 2014 15:42:12 GMT -9
Isnt there like almost every fantasy monster you can think done 2d and 3d? Well, I've got lots of sets with things like zombies, but each artist has a different style, so it adds some variety to what you're playing against. And, right now, I've got 10 monster-manual-esque books behind me. I'm pretty sure I don't have minis that represent them all. I'm just sayin'. I love monster standees. No doubt I going to do monsters of some sort.
Most likely horror.
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Post by gilius on Jul 2, 2014 18:42:37 GMT -9
You can find many miniatures but in different styles and scales and sometimes they just do not fit together.
That said, I do not think there are enough post-apocalyptic warriors/survivors/gangers/mutants around. Also, matching sets of police, gangs and civilians.
I think precut minis might be fine, but in my particular case they are not viable as the shipping costs to Brazil are ridiculous.
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Post by cadia134 on Jul 2, 2014 18:45:05 GMT -9
THere are a lot of PC race minis, and some monsters, but there are so many more that get no love at all. There are lots of army units, but considerably fewer of what I would consider full armies. Look at how well received the Splinterwood stuff has been. great models, but also designed with war gaming in mind. The fox armi featured a while ago in the Hoards was a great start, but stopped short of really filling out the army. It would be nice if there were a more cohesive army or two out there. I am having a hard time completing a Dwarf army using several different designers, let alone one source.
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Post by wisdomknight on Jul 2, 2014 18:58:40 GMT -9
You can find many miniatures but in different styles and scales and sometimes they just do not fit together. That said, I do not think there are enough post-apocalyptic warriors/survivors/gangers/mutants around. Also, matching sets of police, gangs and civilians. I think precut minis might be fine, but in my particular case they are not viable as the shipping costs to Brazil are ridiculous. Thanks gilius for the suggestions.
I was thinking about post-apocalyptic minis. That is something that isn't as widely available. Its also a genre that does keep growing in popularity.
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Post by wisdomknight on Jul 2, 2014 19:00:24 GMT -9
THere are a lot of PC race minis, and some monsters, but there are so many more that get no love at all. There are lots of army units, but considerably fewer of what I would consider full armies. Look at how well received the Splinterwood stuff has been. great models, but also designed with war gaming in mind. The fox armi featured a while ago in the Hoards was a great start, but stopped short of really filling out the army. It would be nice if there were a more cohesive army or two out there. I am having a hard time completing a Dwarf army using several different designers, let alone one source. Tjhanks cadia134 those army ideas are a good thing to consider.
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Post by cadia134 on Jul 2, 2014 19:44:08 GMT -9
To clerify a bit, A lot of the unit sized modle groups out there do not make up a full army. One Monk does a good job of putting together full armies. The Elven Alliance in particular is well rounded. I think the biggest difference is the fact that they are designed to be used in a war game setting rather than a RPG setting. A place to start might be to look at some of the different war games out there( I would suggest Warhammer Fantasy Battles, and Kings of War), check out the army lists, see what all of the options are and figure out how to fill in the blanks left by other designers. For example, The dwarf army I mentioned earlier is being built for Mantic Games' Kings of War. The list includes several war machines and monsters that I am having a very difficult time finding.
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Post by 8rad on Jul 2, 2014 22:10:28 GMT -9
Not seen much historic stuff ie ww2 napoleonics etc. Also unit minis like one mini showing a group. Scale 28-30mm seems the main focus and ideal for rpg but 5-15mm could be good for wargames. Anime/cartoon style are not to common either. Another aspect is the token/flat mini.
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Post by wyvern on Jul 3, 2014 4:54:47 GMT -9
Isnt there like almost every fantasy monster you can think done 2d and 3d? Honestly, no. There are some huge gaps. Undead human zombies and skeletons are massively over-represented, for example, yet animal and monster zombies and skeletons are nearly nonexistent. I spent ages hunting round for some Githyanki paper minis over a year ago, but found scarcely any, as a more specific case. Take a look at some of the manufacturers of cast metal, plastic and resin minis, and you quickly start to realise just how much isn't available in paper still. I agree with others of the comments here about incomplete ranges of minis too. Maybe the question shouldn't be what paper minis are most needed (because everyone will have a different opinion), but what paper minis do you feel most inspired to design, and then see through to the completion of a full range?
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Post by cadia134 on Jul 3, 2014 5:50:02 GMT -9
+1 to wyvern's comment on desingning what inspiers you. If you aren't excited about what you are doing, the quality will suffer.
That said when designing armies it looks like a lot of designers start out strong,but loose momentum.
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Post by wisdomknight on Jul 4, 2014 6:09:46 GMT -9
Isnt there like almost every fantasy monster you can think done 2d and 3d? Honestly, no. There are some huge gaps. Undead human zombies and skeletons are massively over-represented, for example, yet animal and monster zombies and skeletons are nearly nonexistent. I spent ages hunting round for some Githyanki paper minis over a year ago, but found scarcely any, as a more specific case. Take a look at some of the manufacturers of cast metal, plastic and resin minis, and you quickly start to realise just how much isn't available in paper still. I agree with others of the comments here about incomplete ranges of minis too. Maybe the question shouldn't be what paper minis are most needed (because everyone will have a different opinion), but what paper minis do you feel most inspired to design, and then see through to the completion of a full range? Well Im definitely going to be doing undead, lots of types for sure.
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Post by Parduz on Jul 4, 2014 6:50:13 GMT -9
I will not go in figure details, but in genres i did'nt see much stuffs: - ACCURATE historical medieval - WWI and WWII armies - Modern Conflicts (about this, i see how represent "current" conflicts could lead to some trouble: still i'd like to see fictionals Hi-Tech and average military, armed and unarmed civilians in various fashions - modern urban: hostages, SWAT-like, police, citizens, street gangs, police dogs - everyday stuffs: basically everything in a farm or in a town - Near sci-fi: i mean plausible astronauts, even if geared for skirmish - Mechs: i think pure 2D is a bit detrimental for mechs, but still there's almost nothing out there, either in "Battletech" or more Japanese (say, Gundam or Ghost in the Shell) style - post-apoc riders (in a 70's - 80's fashion like madmax - spy stories (say, 007-like)
In general the things that bother me the most is the lacks of complete opposite factions. It's very rare to find 3 or 4 complete armies (fantery, mounted, ecc) to build up a wargaming tournament. If you don't like to mix styles from different authors you just can't (as example, the only complete armies from Onemonk are Undeads and Elves, perhaps you can build up the Humans by using and modding a bit the various sets, but if you want Dwarfs you have to look for another artist). HTH
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Post by wisdomknight on Jul 4, 2014 7:18:44 GMT -9
I will not go in figure details, but in genres i did'nt see much stuffs: - ACCURATE historical medieval - WWI and WWII armies - Modern Conflicts (about this, i see how represent "current" conflicts could lead to some trouble: still i'd like to see fictionals Hi-Tech and average military, armed and unarmed civilians in various fashions - modern urban: hostages, SWAT-like, police, citizens, street gangs, police dogs - everyday stuffs: basically everything in a farm or in a town - Near sci-fi: i mean plausible astronauts, even if geared for skirmish - Mechs: i think pure 2D is a bit detrimental for mechs, but still there's almost nothing out there, either in "Battletech" or more Japanese (say, Gundam or Ghost in the Shell) style - post-apoc riders (in a 70's - 80's fashion like madmax - spy stories (say, 007-like) In general the things that bother me the most is the lacks of complete opposite factions. It's very rare to find 3 or 4 complete armies (fantery, mounted, ecc) to build up a wargaming tournament. If you don't like to mix styles from different authors you just can't (as example, the only complete armies from Onemonk are Undeads and Elves, perhaps you can build up the Humans by using and modding a bit the various sets, but if you want Dwarfs you have to look for another artist). HTH Thanks Parduz. That was very helpful. I like a lot of those ideas and am interested in many personally.
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Post by cowboyleland on Jul 5, 2014 6:44:27 GMT -9
I'm late commenting because I was out of town. I couldn't find any swashbuckling pistol and rapier figures when I was looking. Similarly, renaissance civilians are hard to find. It may be because there are not a lot of RPG games set in this time.
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Post by wisdomknight on Jul 5, 2014 8:18:17 GMT -9
I'm late commenting because I was out of town. I couldn't find any swashbuckling pistol and rapier figures when I was looking. Similarly, renaissance civilians are hard to find. It may be because there are not a lot of RPG games set in this time. Like pirate swashbucklers or musketeers?
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Post by mesper on Jul 5, 2014 9:35:02 GMT -9
<...> I couldn't find any swashbuckling pistol and rapier figures when I was looking <...> and much more...
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Post by cowboyleland on Jul 6, 2014 5:53:58 GMT -9
mesper: I bought your pirate bundle. They were the only thing that even came close, but most of them look too much like pirates to be used in city/courtly scenarios. I decided to skip on the 30 year war artillery because I thought they would have the same problem. I ended up using some top downs designed for computer gaming that Vermin King (I can't tag Vermin King) pointed me at, but I forget the artist's name.
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