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Post by chiefasaur on Dec 1, 2016 18:08:14 GMT -9
Alright, I've got goblins, lizardmen, skeletons and kobolds in the shop! Time to focus on even more low-level monsters, Orcs! Half the pack has already been finished, but I only have builds for the archer to show you so far. I know everyone has their own orc-flavor preferences, but I'm in the green skin/gorilla-nose camp. Sorry team pig-nose, you're stuck with Okum's amazing orc-pack. Either way, here's the archer. I hope you don't mind my interpretation of orcs.
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Post by chiefasaur on Dec 7, 2016 17:50:00 GMT -9
Orc progress continues! I've added a gray variant for underground games, also, they get a pet piggy!
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Dec 8, 2016 17:54:50 GMT -9
Where's the busty orc chick?
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Post by chiefasaur on Dec 8, 2016 18:22:23 GMT -9
Where's the busty orc chick? I haven't re-skinned her yet for the deep orc variant. Don't worry, she'll be in the pack there.
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Dec 8, 2016 19:44:46 GMT -9
BTW, awesome piggy!
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Post by jeffgeorge on Dec 9, 2016 9:18:52 GMT -9
I'm really looking forward to the orc set, having picked up and assembled several of your sets just last night. I especially like the fact that you're planning recolors/reskins in the orc set. The one and only thing that frustrated me a little about the sets I picked up last night--the Ultimate Elementals and the Slimes and Scales, for example--is that your pages often have two or three of the exact same mini on the same page. Recoloring them a bit--even if it's just the shield or the tabard or whatever is appropriate--and perhaps flipping half of the figures right-to-left would not add much time when preparing a set, but it would MASSIVELY enhance the value to the customer. I hate having to put out several identical minis on the table and mark their bases so I can tell them apart. Even if they are the same line art, just changing some colors lets me identify them as the red, green, orange, and blue kobolds, or the red-shield, blue-shield, green-shield, and orange-shield orcs. It happens that I am handy enough with GIMP to do this for myself, but it takes a bit of time, and when I do it, it ONLY helps me, since I have no way ethically share the modded minis. Here are my recolors of some of the Slimes and Scales set (I've deliberate included only part of each figure, to prevent people from being able to print them out for use). In each grouping, I left one figure in the original color scheme, but flipped it right to left, so that it would be different than the ones from the as-published sheet I'd already printed out. This doesn't take too much time, but it really enhances the value and utility of the set for me. Anyway, food for thought. Keep up the great work! I'm very excited to get those orcs when they're ready!
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Post by migibb on Dec 9, 2016 12:19:41 GMT -9
I know squirmydad has added re-colours and mods done by other people to his sets on drivethrurpg. I don't know if you and chiefasaur could come to some sort of arrangement jeffgeorge?
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Post by jeffgeorge on Dec 9, 2016 12:27:08 GMT -9
I know squirmydad has added re-colours and mods done by other people to his sets on drivethrurpg. I don't know if you and chiefasaur could come to some sort of arrangement jeffgeorge ? I didn't know that, migibb, but it's great to hear. I'd be happy to talk about finding a way to share the mods I've done in a way that does not undermine the sales of Trash Mob Minis, or even better, enhances them. chiefasaur, if you're interested, drop me a pm, and I'll email you a couple of the modded sheets I've done.
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Post by chiefasaur on Dec 9, 2016 15:07:21 GMT -9
Interesting. I find that the more and more packs I produce and sell, the more everyone has their own preferences on what should be included in a pack. I'm definitely trying to nudge things in a direction that satisfies everyone, but, I still clearly have a lot left to learn, especially now that my minis are popular enough for the feedback to really start rolling in. I only recently realized flipping the figures in each set would be useful, and from now on, I will include "mirrored" mobs. I was planning on sneaking that into the orc pack anyway, and just not say anything On the subject of palette swaps: At the moment I don't intend to include regular recolors. I work hard at developing a color scheme that translates well to print, as well as embodies the character I wish to portray. Multiple palettes for each pack would actually take me an enormous amount of time, that I would much rather spend making new monsters. It would also drive the price up. The orcs are an exception. Some gamers prefer green, other prefer grey, figured it was important enough to include both. jeffgeorge your recolors look fantastic! I don't intend to retroactively add them to any packs though, and it is %100 because my packs are my art and giving up any of that control makes me supremely uncomfortable. I most likely won't go back and change any of the already available packs. Once they are in the shop, unless there is something drastically wrong, I pretty much have to put a fork in them. This is to keep me from microdirecting EVERY element, and actually get things done. I could easily (and sometimes do) spend weeks obsessing over the minutia of a figure, but, the to-do list is growing at an alarming speed. Ultimately, what my pipeline boils down to at the moment, is I am getting a LOT more requests and suggestions for monsters/creatures/characters in my style, then I am getting criticism about the nuts and bolts of things. I'll keep adjusting my course to try to accommodate everyone's preferences as much as possible, but I am feeling more pressure just to get as many diverse monsters on the table as possible. Thanks for all the feedback. I do sincerely want to provide everyone with a high quality product, and with whatever meager time and resources I do have to devote to this, you'd better believe I'm trying to deliver something worthy of your time and resources.
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 9, 2016 15:48:39 GMT -9
And some of us old farts prefer 'grey' ... LOL
Just keep on keeping on. And remember to take time to breathe, eat and sleep occasionally.
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Post by chiefasaur on Dec 9, 2016 15:56:33 GMT -9
And some of us old farts prefer 'grey' ... LOL Just keep on keeping on. And remember to take time to breathe, eat and sleep occasionally. Oops, ha! I'm not the best at spelling. This is why I draw monsters and don't write novels Also, I juuust had a conversation with my mom, who also reminded me to eat and sleep. It's a common theme these days.
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 9, 2016 16:03:46 GMT -9
I believe Webster would say that 'gray' is the preferred spelling these days. I'm just showing my age
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Post by chiefasaur on Dec 9, 2016 16:14:24 GMT -9
Now I'm all confused and had to look it up. I'm already terrible at spelling, now they gotta throw this at me? I wish English wasn't my ONLY language, so I could at least have an excuse. Darn stunted American brain! From a brief glance at Google, looks like grAy is 'Murican and grEy is proper UK tally-ho speak. Learned something new!
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Dec 9, 2016 16:16:28 GMT -9
gray vs. grey is really about color vs. horse fur and skin.
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 9, 2016 16:18:37 GMT -9
I think this could be a Hoard Theme -- Grays vs Greys ... LOL
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Post by chiefasaur on Dec 9, 2016 16:20:14 GMT -9
So, an orc that is grAy has grEy skin? THIS is why I don't do palette swaps!
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Post by chiefasaur on Dec 9, 2016 21:48:54 GMT -9
I've already got a skelly-orc in the bone-thrower pack, but they are fun to draw, gonna' slide a new one into this pack.
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Post by cowboyleland on Dec 10, 2016 7:23:13 GMT -9
First thing I thought: "I wonder if chiefasaur is going to draw the creature that those horns came off of?" Second thought: "A bear trap codpiece is a real fashion statement!" I realise now it is not actually a bear trap, but the thought might inspire something fun.
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Post by jeffgeorge on Dec 10, 2016 8:37:24 GMT -9
Interesting. I find that the more and more packs I produce and sell, the more everyone has their own preferences on what should be included in a pack. I'm definitely trying to nudge things in a direction that satisfies everyone, but, I still clearly have a lot left to learn, especially now that my minis are popular enough for the feedback to really start rolling in. I only recently realized flipping the figures in each set would be useful, and from now on, I will include "mirrored" mobs. I was planning on sneaking that into the orc pack anyway, and just not say anything On the subject of palette swaps: At the moment I don't intend to include regular recolors. I work hard at developing a color scheme that translates well to print, as well as embodies the character I wish to portray. Multiple palettes for each pack would actually take me an enormous amount of time, that I would much rather spend making new monsters. It would also drive the price up. The orcs are an exception. Some gamers prefer green, other prefer grey, figured it was important enough to include both. jeffgeorge your recolors look fantastic! I don't intend to retroactively add them to any packs though, and it is %100 because my packs are my art and giving up any of that control makes me supremely uncomfortable. I most likely won't go back and change any of the already available packs. Once they are in the shop, unless there is something drastically wrong, I pretty much have to put a fork in them. This is to keep me from microdirecting EVERY element, and actually get things done. I could easily (and sometimes do) spend weeks obsessing over the minutia of a figure, but, the to-do list is growing at an alarming speed. Ultimately, what my pipeline boils down to at the moment, is I am getting a LOT more requests and suggestions for monsters/creatures/characters in my style, then I am getting criticism about the nuts and bolts of things. I'll keep adjusting my course to try to accommodate everyone's preferences as much as possible, but I am feeling more pressure just to get as many diverse monsters on the table as possible. Thanks for all the feedback. I do sincerely want to provide everyone with a high quality product, and with whatever meager time and resources I do have to devote to this, you'd better believe I'm trying to deliver something worthy of your time and resources. I totally respect everything you've said here, chiefasaur. The last thing in the world I want to do is undermine an artist's vision for his work. All I meant to be doing was submitting for your consideration a couple of ideas that had occurred to me about how to enhance the value of the mini sets as a commercial product, from my own personal perspective as a consumer, in a way that seemed to me to provide a pretty high return for time invested. The flipped versions are a great addition. They will be especially useful to folks who are using the minis to build multi-figure units for tabletop miniatures battles--something that appears to be a growing part of the hobby these days, based on what I see online. Flips are slightly less impactful for traditional roleplayers (D&D, etc.), but they are still a help. When you've only got two orcs to keep track of, you can call them "Righty" and "Lefty", at least! As a roleplaying GM, I find some kind of recolor more useful even than alternate poses when managing a band of identical mobs (goblins, orcs, wolves, rats, etc.), and maybe that was the point that was implicit in my mentioning what I do with the minis I buy and print. Because of the usefulness of figures of different colors, along with my own crippling sense of perfectionism regarding visual presentation, I've evolved a method for recoloring printable minis that gives me pretty good results in just a few minutes per figure. I'd love to have some way to share the benefits of the recolors I do with other GMs, but because printable minis are infinite digital products, instead of physical objects, there is really no way for me to do that without harming the rights and interests of the original creator--which I will not do without the direct approval and cooperation of the artist. In any case, I definitely agree, as a consumer, that I want lots more of your minis on the market as quickly as possible. (No pressure!) If that means doing my own recolors, I can certainly do that.
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Post by chiefasaur on Dec 10, 2016 10:07:37 GMT -9
jeffgeorge now I need to make some of your beuatiful, modular dungeon tiles. I bet my figures would look right at home in them
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Post by chiefasaur on Dec 15, 2016 16:06:55 GMT -9
The orc lineup is locked in! I'll try to make these guys available tomorrow! The ones with skin also have grey versions.
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Post by Rhannon on Dec 17, 2016 2:25:54 GMT -9
The orc lineup is locked in! I'll try to make these guys available tomorrow! The ones with skin also have grey versions. Six wonderful figures. Great colors' variations. Thank you very much for your efforts.
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Post by Brave Adventures on Dec 17, 2016 2:53:10 GMT -9
Your art style is so slick and funky! I love it! Whenever I see your sets, I imagine them belonging to a video game like Castle Crashers or something and I really want to play it!
Keep up the great work!
Ryan
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Post by Rhannon on Dec 17, 2016 3:03:59 GMT -9
The female orc is stunning. And her design makes her also compatible with other authors' paper minis imho. ( imho is the least caricatured drawing among all those present in this set ).
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Post by chiefasaur on Dec 17, 2016 6:02:51 GMT -9
The female orc is stunning. And her design makes her also compatible with other authors' paper minis imho. ( imho is the least caricatured drawing among all those present in this set ). Yeah, I designed her months before I made the rest of the orcs, so she's a bit off-model. Oh well, could be a useful half-orc or something.
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Post by jeffgeorge on Dec 17, 2016 7:09:01 GMT -9
jeffgeorge now I need to make some of your beuatiful, modular dungeon tiles. I bet my figures would look right at home in them You betcha! Actually, I need to get back on the stick and add some more stuff to the set. Maybe between Xmas and New Years....
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Post by Rhannon on Dec 18, 2016 10:45:19 GMT -9
The female orc is stunning. And her design makes her also compatible with other authors' paper minis imho. ( imho is the least caricatured drawing among all those present in this set ). Yeah, I designed her months before I made the rest of the orcs, so she's a bit off-model. Oh well, could be a useful half-orc or something. Honestly (this is not a criticism, it's just a matter of taste and strictly personal preference) I prefer much more the female orc compared to all the other figures. I personally don't like very much ( but I like a lot, so it's only a matter of words at the end ) figures with very marked comic and/or caricatured features. Usually my limit is Okumarts figures. Besides I start to not like it very much. So I think that female orc is perfect. For me is your better figure. Sorry. Ciao
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Post by lightning on Dec 18, 2016 23:35:13 GMT -9
The force is strong in this one!
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Post by chiefasaur on Dec 19, 2016 11:47:21 GMT -9
The orc pack is done and in the SHOP
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