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Post by Antohammer on Nov 19, 2018 3:16:12 GMT -9
hi guys i know this will look like spam (it is indeed Vermin King dont ban me pleaze) But i have a big news .... I started to assemble the test ship for the desert skeletons i know a lot of things gone bad.... i have to make a bigger ship-side .... i was even thinking to add a sterncastle or elaborated ship-sides .... regarding the figurehead those were only placeholders... i want to make them bigger and with variants... here you cannot see but they are separated pieces... this way i want to make more pieces and letting the buyer decide which one to glue. i want to do the same with the sails....... with this dimension all fets one a4 paper sheet on the ship can stay 10 minia with 25mm bases ..... to me it seams quite good for a little ship... with minor change in size i can obtain a bigger ship... but for sure it cannot stay in one page only... any suggestions guys?? i want to hear you what you think i m very hyped !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by cowboyleland on Nov 19, 2018 7:31:13 GMT -9
Ok, since you asked, I will tell you what I think. But you don't have to take my advice, you should do what you think is best! I think your boat is maybe too round at the ends. I would want it a little pointier, but I know that means it couldn't hold quite as many mini's so maybe that is a reason not to change it. Secondly I think the figure head stands out from the ship a little too much. I think it would look better if the bottom of the curve was shorter. Just my opinion. Stay hyped!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by squirmydad on Nov 19, 2018 7:46:54 GMT -9
I concur with Cowboyleland's assessment of the "necks", I think they will be too fragile to survive extended use. And stay hyped! *Making announcements about projects that excite you is not spam, but I did move the thread to your own section of the forum.
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Post by Antohammer on Nov 19, 2018 8:25:44 GMT -9
THANKYOU BOSS squirmydad cowboyleland i did a concept... do you think this way better? cowboyleland i was thinking the same... to make a second ship... pointier only on the prow but not in the stern... i was thinking to add sterncastle and prowcastle.... for balista and catapult... i post a concept i want then produce a set of boxes and goods to make a mercant ship.... then if you use sailors different from the undead it can be used in almost every ancient naval wargame .... i was thinking to make a set of 10 seapeople not undead ;D ahahaha hype!!!!!
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Post by Vermin King on Nov 19, 2018 9:06:58 GMT -9
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Post by wyvern on Nov 19, 2018 10:21:46 GMT -9
There's always going to be a degree of compromise in creations like this between relative historical reality, and what needs to be achieved to make a robust papercraft model. Reducing the height of the figurehead pieces makes sense, but I'd be inclined to possibly reduce them still more than your V.02, and probably make the attachment tabs larger, so they'd fit along more of the prow sides of the vessel (giving a larger, so stronger, attachment area). As some of the real-world ancient Egyptian examples seem to have had prow ornamentation that ran out at quite a shallow angle to the rest of the ship, the figureheads needn't be quite so upright in all cases, perhaps (given that anything sticking-up vertically is most likely to get hit and damaged in use first). Liking the thinking behind the one-page ship design concept though. And someone's going to have to find us the hieroglyphic equivalent of "Har, har, me hearties!"
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Post by Vermin King on Nov 19, 2018 10:48:59 GMT -9
I think the prow of the boat needs the appearance of sweeping up. At least slightly, which wouldn't interfere with the forecastle. And the front piece needs to look more like a natural extension of the prow, not an add-on. Kinda like this
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Post by cowboyleland on Nov 19, 2018 21:22:25 GMT -9
Since you asked: I think you went a bit too far with the V.02 If it was me I would make it as high as V.01 but keep the V2 length.
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Post by Antohammer on Nov 20, 2018 1:12:55 GMT -9
hi guys thankyou for the suggestions i want to show u 2 new concept... i was thinking to insert them all aniway in the ship set the new main question is about the prow style... dont you think that pointer looks too much like a greeke ship rather than an egyptian one? i have this damn question in my mind since yesterday night....
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Post by Antohammer on Nov 21, 2018 1:37:43 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Nov 21, 2018 4:23:20 GMT -9
Nice. Parduz isn't that far away...
No, I really don't know how far away he is, but he is closer than I am
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Post by squirmydad on Nov 21, 2018 7:35:49 GMT -9
That was fast! I like the fore and aft raised deck options, different levels create more interesting looks. It looks a little small once you put minis into it, how long is the model? Nice work.
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Post by Antohammer on Nov 21, 2018 10:03:57 GMT -9
squirmydad i know it s small... it s 27 cm circa from end to end and 6 cm wide .... It s made to contain 12 minia with castle and 10 without them... ... i m drawing a bigger version...
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Post by cowboyleland on Nov 21, 2018 20:26:22 GMT -9
I thought I made a post about the shape of the prow but I guess it didn't upload. I think your ship looks good. You might want to stiffen the mast by putting a fold in it lengthwise. And maybe for storage you should work out a way to take the mast off. Go easy on your sister.
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Post by Antohammer on Nov 22, 2018 0:13:20 GMT -9
I thought I made a post about the shape of the prow but I guess it didn't upload. I think your ship looks good. You might want to stiffen the mast by putting a fold in it lengthwise. And maybe for storage you should work out a way to take the mast off. Go easy on your sister. thankyou my friend my sister in the end cutted the corner... (i dont know if exist as expression in english, in italian you say that when someone flee when you call him) .... i had to play alone lika stupid child... ... i m even working on a wargame ruleset for them.... aniway... i want to wait to make this public... i want to try to make the mast 3d and detatchable.... i was thinking to make a piece that should be glued inside the ship with a box shape top opened. then you insert the mast.... i will insert a concept
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Post by Antohammer on Nov 22, 2018 4:36:28 GMT -9
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Post by Antohammer on Nov 22, 2018 23:50:07 GMT -9
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Post by Antohammer on Nov 24, 2018 5:49:11 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Nov 26, 2018 10:37:13 GMT -9
I watched a whole bunch of Ancient Egypt programs on Science Channel yesterday, and there were a couple that applied, sort of. Construction of cargo boats for carrying the stones used in the pyramids. The Tomb (or Mastaba) of Ti, an overseer during the time that the pyramids were built, is the grandest private tomb of this era. On its walls there are scenes of hunting, food gathering and shipment, and the shipment of the stones used in the pyramids. Not only that, but there are five panels showing these boats being built. Bing wasn't as helpful as I'd hoped, but it can point you down a good path for Egyptian boats of the pyramid age, www.bing.com/images/search?q=tomb+of+ti&FORM=HDRSC2
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Post by lightning on Nov 27, 2018 1:35:44 GMT -9
Cool ship, I love the full crew pic :-)
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Post by Antohammer on Nov 27, 2018 4:46:26 GMT -9
Cool ship, I love the full crew pic :-) thankyou my friend ... but they are miles away from yours!!!! .... they are made for my upcoming fantasy campaign Vermin King .... very interesting my thankyou i must admit that i dont know a lot about ancient egypt... i have to buy some books!!!!
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Post by lightning on Nov 27, 2018 4:58:25 GMT -9
Cool ship, I love the full crew pic :-) thankyou my friend ... but they are miles away from yours!!!! .... they are made for my upcoming fantasy campaign Vermin King .... very interesting my thankyou i must admit that i dont know a lot about ancient egypt... i have to buy some books!!!! I don't doubt when you invest as much time as I do they will look similar!
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Post by Antohammer on Nov 27, 2018 5:17:25 GMT -9
lightning aniway i m making a set of hoplite s
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