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Post by godofrandomness on Jan 11, 2009 23:31:05 GMT -9
Personally I'd prefer fronts only if the distribution is pdf. When making proxies for Magic, and when I printed out the card game from xenogears, I found it easiest to simply print out on regular printer paper and put it in a sleeve with a Magic card for backing. The sleeves have conformed backs, whihc is a must for randomness, and even 110lb cardstock isn't really a good material for shuffling by itself.
I see 3 problems with the folding idea:
1. I don't see cards glued together holding up to shuffling too well.
2. Folded cards could be too thick for card sleeves (that's just my preference).
3. Printing out 9 cards per page versus 4 saves massively on ink and paper.
The best way to do it, if possible, would be to make both options available in the pdf.
As for distribution as real cards, I'd be a happy customer with that too, just as long they are at least colse to the standard trading card size (2.5 in by 3.5 in if I remember right).
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Post by godofrandomness on Jan 11, 2009 23:19:41 GMT -9
Different doors for open and close would be the easiest. It work with Heroquest, adn it will work here too. I'd recommend doing it like a paper mini in terms of constructing. See dungeon plungin stuff from oversoul-games.com for a good example of what I mean.
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Post by godofrandomness on Jan 11, 2009 23:06:30 GMT -9
Are you going to make the tiles available to us by chance?
And I also agree on the 2.5 or 3d terrain. It looks so much better.
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Post by godofrandomness on Jan 11, 2009 22:02:36 GMT -9
I recently ran into a little dillema. My newly assembled and based 2.5d dragon doesn't fit into the storage case that I am using for teh rest of my paper minis. Anyone have any ideas for a case that can fit several dragon size things, and preferably with seperations?
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Post by godofrandomness on Jan 11, 2009 18:27:14 GMT -9
I've always had a preference for ducks in dungeons. I mean everyone knows you should know better than to pick up a duck in a dungeon.....
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Post by godofrandomness on Jan 10, 2009 16:50:00 GMT -9
First off, that tile look amazing! I would go with a number coding system. Each card would have a number that corresponds to a number on the back of a tile. Then, you just keep the tiles in numerical order. If you're drawing tiles at random from a stack, distinguishing the backs would throw that off (played in local Magic tourneys back in the day, they really drill that into you). EDIT: OOPs misread what I was quoting there... As for actually shuffling tiles, after a few games of munchkin quest and betrayal at the house on the hill, shuffling the tiles is a pain and brings more damage to them over time. I too prefer the WHQ "tile deck" method of randomizing or maybe a table to roll on.
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Post by godofrandomness on Jan 6, 2009 17:28:02 GMT -9
I did see some inkjet printable magnetic paper in walmart the other day. I just glanced at it, and it's probably a little pricey, but it might help for what you are trying to do.
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Post by godofrandomness on Jan 5, 2009 17:41:25 GMT -9
So I did finally get to try this on the Reptilians. It looks good. d**n good. AND I figured out a way to do it to the old minis. Instead of trying to split their tab between the sides, I can simply split it in half down the middle, score it along the feet, and fold half each way. Could also peel off a layer or so of cardboard to make the tab thinner on each side, but thats optional. Should work out just fine! Will post pics ASAP. I haven't had too many issues doing it to my old miniss. Apparently the way I glue things with my glue pen leaves a small gap at the base of the mini I could slice through anyway, but the few bases I super glued on were much more of a pain though.
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Post by godofrandomness on Jan 4, 2009 17:09:24 GMT -9
Is tacky glue a decent glue for paper minis? I've been using UHU's liquid glue pen until I left the cap off of it last night, adn now I need a new glue. It's the only thing I found so far that works well for the minis, but it has a problem with curling the bases a little bit. So since I need a new glue pen anyway, I'm willing to consider different stuff.
EDIT: Ok apparently there was some plastic safety plug that I was susposed to have removed before even using the glue pen the first time, but some glue had dried up on it and blocked the flow. After strugging to open it without reading the directions. I just removed the safety cap and now it works again! Lesson learned: read instructions before tearing them off the bottle.
But if tacky glue has less warping, I want to try it for bases anyway.
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Post by godofrandomness on Dec 29, 2008 16:49:53 GMT -9
Thanks for the input, I will do that tonight and submit to the hoard. Also, thanks for my own projects section! It makes me want to start on the next mini already. EDIT: OK here he is, outlined and I will test build later tonight, or maybe if one of you guys get to it before I do post the results. EDIT2: Oops, I forgot to post the link for the image. I built it and I don't see any alignment issues, but I did have to reglue it 1/2 way through cutting it out since I guess the glue dried before I could set it. A couple notes: I have to watch the darks on a black outlined model. I totally blacked out the little guys tail and not realized it until assembling, and I made the head too light. Also, I should rethink using patterns to fill in small detail areas. The patterns aren't noticable on the bracers or the sword handle. The ones on the sword blade came out great I think, as I was trying to add a "icy" look to the weapon, though I think I should have swapped the 2 patterns and used the lighter one for the edge maybe. Oh well, I'm pretty happy with the results one way or another, so I probably won't be fixing this guy too much, but I will take what I learned and apply it to the next one I make. If anyone has any comments, good or ill, I would love to hear them.
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Post by godofrandomness on Dec 28, 2008 20:20:08 GMT -9
Well it will be the greatest if the Chargers can somehow pull it off... YAY! They made playoffs!!!
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Post by godofrandomness on Dec 28, 2008 20:17:07 GMT -9
ok I got the guy colored. The only thing I need to to is figure out how to make the outline thicker on the back side but here he is:
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Post by godofrandomness on Dec 28, 2008 18:29:52 GMT -9
I thought inkscape was a vector tracer? oh well, off to google land then, and I'll see what I can come up with.
EDIT: I can't seem to find a good freeware auto tracer that seemed to do anything. The program I used just made it very blurry and greyish. Next time around I will look more into vectoring, but for now I'm jsut going to color it and post the results hopefully tonight.
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Post by godofrandomness on Dec 28, 2008 18:24:56 GMT -9
Yeah, I'm doin the whole "scan at double size" thing. I'm following you're ghoul guide almost to the letter. I just finished editing but I practicaly had to redraw the entire thing in GIMP. Well, here he is, waiting to be vectored; hopefully inkscape can do it well, I haven't used the program yet. After that it's some coloring and hopefully he will be finished before the month's up so I can get him in the hoard.
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Post by godofrandomness on Dec 28, 2008 1:43:06 GMT -9
I'm taking a break for the night on editing my penguin mini, so I broke down and decided to rebase my minis using the flat technique. I've got 2 notes:
1. If you plan on changing bases ever in a paper mini's lifetime, NEVER use superglue to attach it, no matter how convienant the brush on stuff is.
2. I find it easier to cut off the fold over tops of the base and glue them on once the mini is in place.
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Post by godofrandomness on Dec 28, 2008 1:17:37 GMT -9
I did that; i scanned with gimp, and it popped up with 3 options, don't remember what they are off the top of my head but they weren't very detailed. I chose the first one and it loaded the HP scanning program. It's fine now that I found the B&W scan option, but the lines are still way full of holes and some details need to be redone where lines blurred together, but so far things are going good. I should have the fig ready for coloring tomorrow evening sometime and I will post results then. However, now thanks to boromirandkermit my workload had octupled (is that a word?) and do many more after this one. What a shame...
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Post by godofrandomness on Dec 27, 2008 17:36:21 GMT -9
I've been following the ghoul figure design guide, and it's been really helpful. Drawing figs is nowhere near as hard as I thought it would be, at least the basics of it.
Putting out a high quality mini isn't my primary goal yet, as I am looking for techniques and concepts at the moment, but even if the final version of the penguin comes out crappy, I will be happy.
Also is there a good 3rd party scanning program out there? The default HP one seems a little crappy.
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Post by godofrandomness on Dec 26, 2008 23:29:55 GMT -9
See, I'm OCD enough to go back and re-base all of mine. Need to do that with some of the older ones that are on the grass bases instead of battlefield ANYWAY. Part of me wants to since I put all my initial undead on lava flow bases, but since all the bases are super glued on, it's almost less effort to just reprint and make new ones, and I'm far too lazy for that!
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Post by godofrandomness on Dec 26, 2008 23:27:09 GMT -9
Oh, he so needs a mini! Ok, well tonight I learned that a ultra fine sharpie marker does not a good inking pen make. Either that or my tracing paper or scanner is lame, but when I scanned the inked image, it came out purpleish and none of the lines aer complete. I'll re-ink and try again tomorrow, but here is what I have so far:
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Post by godofrandomness on Dec 26, 2008 22:10:47 GMT -9
well if i remember right, one of the hello kitty characters is a penguin...
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Post by godofrandomness on Dec 26, 2008 19:32:09 GMT -9
It does help them look a lot more like "regular" minis. I'd consider changing to that method, but I'm too stubborn about conformity. If my collection goes missing or something, and I have to restart from scratch, I'll change.
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Post by godofrandomness on Dec 26, 2008 18:14:29 GMT -9
Ok, between all the good stuff here from Jim and others and the art thats my current avatar, I've been inspired to attemt to draw a mini myself, despite my despite my horrible drawing skills. I jsut hope I can overcome that with some good graphic editing
I'm chosen to attempt to do an anthropomorphic penguin of some sort, for several reasons: 1. I LOVE penguins!!!!!! 2. It doesn't have to look all tht realistic 3. If I screw up badly, I can go for the "artistic reinterpretation, modern art" excuse. 4. I have yet to see a penguin mini in either paper, plastic, resin, metal, cardboard, wood, ice, flesh, or any other material. 5. I LOVE penguins!!!!!!
I'll post results as I get to them.
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Post by godofrandomness on Dec 25, 2008 1:30:59 GMT -9
My big fear is Warhammer Fantasy becoming a second tier game. It is WAY behind 40K and LotR. While those are both solid games, WHFB is a classic that still holds up. God, I hope not! The fantasy line is my favorite place to go for most minis (at least before discovering One Monk adn all its glory). They cost way too much for trying to field an army, but for games like talisman or warhammer quest, the higher price isn't so bad since its only one or two.
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Post by godofrandomness on Dec 24, 2008 18:13:03 GMT -9
The problem isn't so much the following of it. Like most of GW's "other" games, plenty of people enjoy them, but for good of ill, GW has decided to focus almost solely on the "core" games; mainly because that's where the money is. If there has been a major drop in following of the specialist titles, it's because of the current narrow focus.
Games like bloodbowl, mordheim, ect. require only a handful of minis per person, unlike 40k or fantasy, which require tons just for 1 small army. I can't really argue with them choosing to go with the product lines that provide more cash flow; that's just good business sense.
I've probably just restated things that have been said millions of times before, so I apologize.
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Post by godofrandomness on Dec 24, 2008 16:50:27 GMT -9
well, technically, the game is still "active." They do update the rulebook (which is free to download off their specialist games sections) and put out some minis once in a while.
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Post by godofrandomness on Dec 24, 2008 9:20:59 GMT -9
Maybe if we beg, whine, and bribe Jim into doing it, maybe we can get him to squeeze a couple football themed minis to celebrate the greatest holiday of them all, the Superbowl! Well it will be the greatest if the Chargers can somehow pull it off...
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Post by godofrandomness on Dec 22, 2008 23:17:51 GMT -9
OK, minis all cut out! It looks great, and the alignment looks fine. I've only got 2 comments: 1. The black outline around the ax blade is way too thin on both front and back. 2. There needs to be about a million more of these guys! Thanks a lot for the mod!
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Post by godofrandomness on Dec 22, 2008 18:17:18 GMT -9
Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will gladly volunteer my time, effort, and ink to this worthy cause! I'm printing now!
EDIT: Is there any good program that will print a small picture file multiple times on 1 sheet of paper? The defauly windows one is horrible and forces you to use its own choice of sizes.
EDIT2: Crap!, I'm being called away before I can finish assembling, but I should have it done sometime tonight, and I'll post my comments then.
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Post by godofrandomness on Dec 13, 2008 17:27:39 GMT -9
The only real problem I see with the tape is it may make the figures come out too shiny. However, if its put on before before trimming, I can edge it with something like a dry erase marker and might be able to wipe off anywhere that the marker slipped and marked on the front/back...
It's something to experiment with.
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Post by godofrandomness on Dec 12, 2008 16:54:27 GMT -9
That looks like a good option, too. Once I get paid, I'll have to try the different options. Thanks bunches guys!
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