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Post by mesper on Mar 28, 2020 8:08:40 GMT -9
Set title - your advice will be appreciated!
I'm working on 4-th Trappers set (Wild West series).
It will be all about far, frosty north and winter, with
sleighs, tobogans, Huskie dog sleds, kayaks, skis etc.
Perhaps even some Canadian Rangers (however this may end up with too much eggs in the basket/pot, and then it could be very interesting standalone set, dunno...)
So my first idea regarding short but descriptive set title was "Far North", but perhaps "Cold North", "White Plains" or something with "winter" or "snow" would be better?
Then it should be max 2 (preferably short) words.
Any ideas?
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 28, 2020 8:47:45 GMT -9
Yukon Frontier?
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Post by cowboyleland on Mar 28, 2020 10:18:59 GMT -9
Do people outside Canada ever use "Klondike?" Maybe "Frozen North"
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 28, 2020 10:26:01 GMT -9
I am sure the term is used wherever Klondike Candy Bars are sold
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Post by mesper on Apr 2, 2020 14:51:38 GMT -9
Do people outside Canada ever use "Klondike?" Maybe "Frozen North" sounds fine for me - widely understood and universal meaning - thanks! |
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Post by mesper on Apr 3, 2020 14:15:59 GMT -9
OK - I'd need another one suggestion / advice! I'm continuing the Wild West series and now is the Native Indians "mounted warriors" turn. So here's the question: which one sounds more adequate and descriptive for Wild West Indians: - Mounted Warriors (mine's first choice, but IMHO sounds more like some Dark Ages, Eastern or Medieval) - Riders - Horsemen - Horseriders (or Horse Riders) I'm inclined to one of the last two versions, but... Suggestions and help will be appreciated!  |
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Post by squirmydad on Apr 3, 2020 14:53:42 GMT -9
"Horsemen" or "Plainsriders" as it was the primarily the plains indians that had those huge headdresses.
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 3, 2020 15:58:06 GMT -9
Horse Warriors of the Plains
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Post by mesper on Apr 3, 2020 17:09:01 GMT -9
Horse Warriors of the Plains the longer the better...  |
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 3, 2020 17:26:35 GMT -9
The problem with naming these is that there isn't an established name for them. Horse Culture and Horse People refer to the Plains Tribes. Horsemanship and the rise in stature of the warrior became embedded in their lives.
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Post by mesper on Apr 3, 2020 19:15:54 GMT -9
The problem with naming these is that there isn't an established name for them. Horse Culture and Horse People refer to the Plains Tribes. Horsemanship and the rise in stature of the warrior became embedded in their lives. Exactly. Then I made a mistake (I can see it now) trying to give perhaps too precise / descriptive title - you know, Wild West Series with Indians, Trappers (and soon Cowboys / Outlaws, then US Cavalry etc.) - and during the course of work each topic grows into its own mini series with 2, 3 or more sets. Then there are Gunslingers and EASY-SCENERY Indian Camp... So subject is scattered over several series / sections, not even to mention that it also totally divides stylistically in graphics. So I have a mess now...   |
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Post by cowboyleland on Apr 3, 2020 20:22:43 GMT -9
For what it is worth: I like "Plainsriders" or "Riders of the Plains."
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Post by mesper on May 21, 2020 10:03:48 GMT -9
So OK, here comes another one " title dilema" In a mood to change the (not Earth's!) climate a bit - somtin' from (near) future? Kinda manned robo-warrior ( warden?), or robo-mounted shooter, or just and simple robo-rider (mine's first idea)? Or perhaps something with robo-parasyte? Or robo-lord (like warlord) or robo-master? General idea is to do 2 or 3 "basic" figurines: robo-mount + couple riders, plus some versions (small poses changes, different accessories / weapons and ofcourse different colours) - and besides ready-made figurines make of it MOD-KIT, so you will be able to mount/dismount robot, replace riders et. It should be released most probably within RPG Heroes or Sci-Fi Series. Any ideas, suggestions?   |
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Post by Vermin King on May 21, 2020 10:10:18 GMT -9
I actually like 'Robo-Rider', though I would probably make it Riders
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Post by cowboyleland on May 24, 2020 14:33:58 GMT -9
I agree, "Robo-riders" seems to say it all. BTW your sketch has a Moebius feel. That is a good thing. |
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Post by mesper on May 24, 2020 15:58:23 GMT -9
I also like "Robo-riders" the most - it's short and self-explaining. But... when I google it "RoboRiders" - LEGO Technic abandon blocks series - jumped-out immediately. Should know that if something is simplest and most obvious and useful - then it's probably been already used a long time ago. Now, I'm not sure if the words separation/division (robo + "-" + riders) will make significantr difference... But then others more-or-less similar also looks kinda taken: - Droid-rider - Robo-trooper - Auto/Mecha-troopers Or maybe I'm complicating things unnecessarily?  |
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Post by mesper on May 24, 2020 16:44:14 GMT -9
I agree, "Robo-riders" seems to say it all. BTW your sketch has a Moebius feel. That is a good thing. Mostly trooper outfit, helmet and boots(!) style I suppose? BTW do you know Marvano's 3-parts "The Forever War" comic (or rather graphic-novel) based on Joe Haldeman book of the same title? (kinda funny thing - action-time of the story part #1 (Volume 1: Private Mandella) is 2010-2020, so both strange and weird feeling when you live in a year that 30+ years ago was considered sicience-fiction future) IMHO comic book has appealing and cool graphic style - at the same time light and precise. Well, these huge big shoes! Pace of the comic-version story, dynamic and layout of the frames are impressive and engaging, even if some parts might look little dated for today. Then Marvano's drawings and general page composition goes well with the colour. IMO in general kinda not classic yet but "young-timer", still worth reading.  |
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Post by squirmydad on May 24, 2020 20:34:13 GMT -9
Droid-Cavalry
Robo-steeds
Robo-Cavalry
I read the books didn't know there was a graphic novel adaptation.
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Post by oldschooldm on May 25, 2020 7:08:17 GMT -9
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Post by mesper on May 26, 2020 12:18:51 GMT -9
Still no clue regarding title - perhaps I'll stay with the most obvious generic "Robot-riders". (was also thinking about Roboto-riders, this " OTO" sounds kinda Japanese or so?...) Anyway work on figurines moves forward! I already got cleaned outlines and - the most important and time consuming task - separated main components (even safety belt for rider, then accessories like bagpack, side-arm), so I'll be able to play with combining/assembling different versions. Most probably I'll include these components into MOD-KIT, so users can play with them (and for example mount their own riders?). I'm also wondering whether to make separate legs so that the robot could have an upright posture and then even a 2.5D version could be made? But it's always the same issue - the appetite grows as you eat, and when the project develops, ideas come up - still there must be an end and final version somewhere.  BTW - on the preview you can see scale/proportions: A is the initial scanned draft lineart, C - cleaned and scaled-down lineart ready for colouring and B is final assembled version for 60mm figurine (so it will be scaled down again to 30mm - at the end 30mm mini will be smaller(!) than draft robot head).  |
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Post by mesper on Jun 6, 2020 17:19:25 GMT -9
As usual - naming dilemma: >>> Death Knight or Dark / Grim Knight ? BTW this figurine has a fairly long and turbulent history. Firstly supposed to be... mounted and armoured Centaur Warrior, then Renaissance Knight, then Black Knight aka Black Prince and at the end turned out as Death (or Dark) Knight - so kinda Historical Fantasy?. (In fact, it's not very obvious/clear that he is "Death" Knight - well, he has a skull instead of a face, but it's not that visible under the helmet, so perhaps "Dark" or "Grim" would be better) As the output version of the mini was rather (perhaps too) detailed, many details and parts of the drawing were just lost after rescaling/reduction to 60-30 mm scales - so some level of simplifications and corrections were necessary, but IMHO it's still quite refined one. You can see some steps of the project process - pencil drafts, inked version, lineart and nearly finished coloured version.  |
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Post by cowboyleland on Jun 6, 2020 19:40:33 GMT -9
IMO there is not enough black for "Dark Knight" and not enough skull or skeleton for "Death Knight." You could use "Grim Knight" but I was struck by his cloak and banner and I think "Blook Knight" would be my suggestion. I love the historical armour and hand cannon.  |
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Post by mesper on Jun 7, 2020 6:55:28 GMT -9
IMO there is not enough black for "Dark Knight" and not enough skull or skeleton for "Death Knight." You could use "Grim Knight" but I was struck by his cloak and banner and I think "Blook Knight" would be my suggestion. I love the historical armour and hand cannon. You mean >Blood< Knight? Sounds good to me, thanks! Then I can cover skull with quite common and typical for this type of helmet chin cover/armour. |
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Post by cowboyleland on Jun 8, 2020 6:12:59 GMT -9
Yes, "blood knight"  |
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Post by mesper on Jul 31, 2020 15:12:26 GMT -9
I'm (slowly / kinda background task) working on a set or even two with archers and (or?) scouts / rangers / pathfinders. Generally imho they are not generic rogues, although they operate rather silently mostly in uninhabited, wild surroundings - so hence the "forest" or "wilderness" in title. So - what is the best name for such a set: [Forest / Wilderness] Scouts / Rangers / Pathhfinders? --- Just to give you some idea - a few sketches below...  |
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Post by Vermin King on Jul 31, 2020 15:49:51 GMT -9
'Hunters of the Forest', maybe???
Several seem to be wearing cloaks of wolf skins. 'Wolf Hunters' ?
Or 'The Hunt' ?
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Post by squirmydad on Aug 2, 2020 8:58:39 GMT -9
Light feet? Padfoot Rangers?
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Post by cowboyleland on Aug 2, 2020 17:08:16 GMT -9
Foresters? Woodland Stalkers, Forest Scouts, Maybe: Woodland Scouts or Forest Stalkers but I think Forest Foresters is right out.  Woodland Ranger is also an option but Forest Ranger sounds like the modern position. Just plain "Rangers" is used in both D&D and Pathfinder among other places and has the advantage of descent from Tolkien. |
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Post by mesper on Apr 17, 2021 9:57:34 GMT -9
Foresters? Woodland Stalkers, Forest Scouts, Maybe: Woodland Scouts or Forest Stalkers but I think Forest Foresters is right out. Woodland Ranger is also an option but Forest Ranger sounds like the modern position. Just plain "Rangers" is used in both D&D and Pathfinder among other places and has the advantage of descent from Tolkien. Thanks ALL for many interesting suggestions for the set's title! Still a bit confused though. But what appeals to me is that "Rangers" is generally known, kinda "generic" name used in popular settings. So here's a taste of the upcoming set - with just some almost ready-made characters. However most probably I'll give up the standing archer - and will replace him with one with a wolf hide and hat. Or maybe - just make everyone in leather hides? Such a wolf commando or wolf pack rangers?  |
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Post by cowboyleland on Apr 17, 2021 10:09:31 GMT -9
I don't know mesper, if you like the "generic" idea of "Ranger" then I think you should have some "generic" looking figures in the set. Wearing a wolf pelt as a hat is cool but also sort of specific. But do what you like. |
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Woodland Ranger is also an option but Forest Ranger sounds like the modern position. Just plain "Rangers" is used in both D&D and Pathfinder among other places and has the advantage of descent from Tolkien.