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Post by shep on Apr 7, 2020 21:26:20 GMT -9
So, this is the thread for my Renaissance Warmachine Contraptions for April 2020's forum hoard. May I start by introducing Don Raffi di Miniaturico to you? He's a genius architect, mechanic, builder, inventor, and the scale model for the things to come. However, he's a little bit shy, and thus won't be included in the sets... Thanks to okumarts for the great mini. I took the liberty to re-color it a tiny bit...
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Post by shep on Apr 7, 2020 23:37:55 GMT -9
And so it begins...
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Post by shep on Apr 8, 2020 1:34:59 GMT -9
And just so you know where this is heading, a little sketch... EDIT: I just realized that this colossus will smash the battlefield with a height of around 21 cm (8 inches) and a width of about 17.5 cm (roughly 7 inches)... at 15 mm scale
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Post by okumarts on Apr 8, 2020 16:59:27 GMT -9
Funky!
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Post by shep on Apr 15, 2020 21:54:48 GMT -9
Okay... So, I put some more thought into this, and ended up with re-designing the thing. If the treadmill is in the center of the walker, any kind of hip articulation will be impossible, hence the machine won't be able to walk. To correct this flaw, I'll move the treadmill to the shoulder, and add a second one on the other side for symmetry and moooooore power (huh huh huh). This will reduce the canons to one in the center torso, and attach the arms more or less directly to the treadmills.
I also decided that there will be no moving parts on the final model, but it will be designed in a way that you can glue it together in various poses (for example striking with its ball on chain, ramming the attack arm into something, striding forward, wading through a canal).
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Post by shep on Apr 20, 2020 7:03:36 GMT -9
Okay, today I got news that our new couch will be delivered more than one week earlier than originally expected (it was due next week's Friday), which means it will come this Wednesday. Sadly, this means I also will have to get rid of the old couch until then... To cut a long story short: I will try to finish the Warwalker in time for the deadline of the hoard, but with losing two full days, I cannot promise that I will succeed...
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Post by squirmydad on Apr 20, 2020 10:52:32 GMT -9
Okay, today I got news that our new couch will be delivered more than one week earlier than originally expected (it was due next week's Friday), which means it will come this Wednesday. Sadly, this means I also will have to get rid of the old couch until then... To cut a long story short: I will try to finish the Warwalker in time for the deadline of the hoard, but with losing two full days, I cannot promise that I will succeed... May 3rd sounds like a comfortable date.
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 20, 2020 11:12:18 GMT -9
I think I would prefer May 4th, assuming we have stuff in the pipeline. I think there is a good chance that having an extra weekend day could be very helpful.
My big problem right now is that I picked a project that I hold to my highest standard. I could probably throw together da Vinci's mechanical lion as a mech in that time frame or the Bronze Horse, maybe. But that would ensure that the bridge gets put off
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Post by squirmydad on Apr 20, 2020 13:20:39 GMT -9
Perhaps save the bridge for a Papercuts 2020 entry? May the 4th is fine by me.
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Post by shep on Apr 20, 2020 21:22:27 GMT -9
I think I would prefer May 4th, assuming we have stuff in the pipeline. I think there is a good chance that having an extra weekend day could be very helpful. My big problem right now is that I picked a project that I hold to my highest standard. I could probably throw together da Vinci's mechanical lion as a mech in that time frame or the Bronze Horse, maybe. But that would ensure that the bridge gets put off Perhaps you'd find enough time for my idea with da Vinci's glider in 2.5 D and a rubberband catapult to shoot it over the battlefield... I was thinking in the direction of these old toys: The versions from my childhood had a hook on the nose, so you could shoot them with a regular rubberband. However, for my idea of the da Vinci glider, I thought of putting the rubberband behind the glider. You pull it back, let go, and it zooms off the catapult...
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Post by shep on Apr 20, 2020 21:30:50 GMT -9
Perhaps save the bridge for a Papercuts 2020 entry? May the 4th is fine by me. May 4th then... I always wanted to finish a wooden titan mecha on Star Wars day...
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 21, 2020 9:22:23 GMT -9
Perhaps save the bridge for a Papercuts 2020 entry? May the 4th is fine by me. May 4th then... I always wanted to finish a wooden titan mecha on Star Wars day... I really am slow these days. I hadn't put two and two together. Forgot all about Star Wars Day
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Post by shep on Apr 21, 2020 20:09:29 GMT -9
I had not thought about it either, my wife mentioned it. She will also most probably have to return to school the day after...
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 24, 2020 9:49:16 GMT -9
I think I would prefer May 4th, assuming we have stuff in the pipeline. I think there is a good chance that having an extra weekend day could be very helpful. My big problem right now is that I picked a project that I hold to my highest standard. I could probably throw together da Vinci's mechanical lion as a mech in that time frame or the Bronze Horse, maybe. But that would ensure that the bridge gets put off Perhaps you'd find enough time for my idea with da Vinci's glider in 2.5 D and a rubberband catapult to shoot it over the battlefield... I was thinking in the direction of these old toys: The versions from my childhood had a hook on the nose, so you could shoot them with a regular rubberband. However, for my idea of the da Vinci glider, I thought of putting the rubberband behind the glider. You pull it back, let go, and it zooms off the catapult... As mentioned elsewhere, I have an urge to do some projects that shep suggested, but got put off to 'some day'. I think this may be my first one, the 2.5d Da Vinci flyer done similarly to the old gliders. Not sure if it is going to be more like those or a cut-out paper airplane, but this is the sketch I am going to play with EDIT -- Another reason for trying this is that Warren's mom was wondering if I could make a Skully the Parrot glider. I think it would definitely work out to being more of a glider, or maybe similar to my old Pterasaur that I did for Zoe, only much larger
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Post by squirmydad on Aug 24, 2020 20:02:31 GMT -9
I think picking up and completing projects that you two had discussed is a great way to honor a friend and move forward.
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 27, 2020 6:09:20 GMT -9
This particular glider does not lend itself well to the style of glider shep and I discussed. As I look at this, there is the flat part the pilot lies on, which can fold up to be the vertical connection to the wings, which are a reasonably flat part, too, though angled up from the middle. So, that is the approach I will take, but what I am really wrestling with is what form the pilot should take. I was looking at the Canon Wright Flyer. Here's how they did the pilot on it Once I decided on the style of the model, I started making a glider pilot based off three of the Bragosso figures. I originally thought I would do a flat horizontal figure whose head would fold up to be looking where he is going. Then I thought it would be better to also have a bend at the waist, raising the chest, and arms that fold down at the shoulders, and the head still folded back slightly. Once I saw the Canon figure, I started thinking I was making the pilot more difficult than he needs to be. At this point, I think I will make my model and then decide which style of pilot will be most effective EDIT -- This glider was one of his later designs. Some of da Vinci's early studies would have flown as well as a hunk of log, but by this sketch, he had learned to minimize weight. The only problem is that there is not enough support for keeping the front and bottom at a 90 degree angle. To keep the wings at the proper angle, the rider would have to be actively working the foot and hand pulleys. It is really quite spooky to see it in terms of mechanics. To keep it in the proper shape, I may have to glue the pulleys on as braces. hmmm
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 27, 2020 13:07:26 GMT -9
Perhaps you'd find enough time for my idea with da Vinci's glider in 2.5 D and a rubberband catapult to shoot it over the battlefield... I was thinking in the direction of these old toys: The versions from my childhood had a hook on the nose, so you could shoot them with a regular rubberband. However, for my idea of the da Vinci glider, I thought of putting the rubberband behind the glider. You pull it back, let go, and it zooms off the catapult... I really want to do this as 'shootable'. In those classic gliders, the 'lift' wings generally go through the body near the center of gravity. The stabilizing wings cause drag to help the plane fly true. It all comes down to Lift, Thrust, Gravity and Drag. If you ever had the opportunity to play with those old gliders, they were weighted at the front end and the rubber band hook was near that weight. 'Putting the rubberband behind the glider' is going to give any glider more of an aptitude for flipping. With the wings this high, one would have to apply the the Thrust higher than the body of the craft at the back (nearer the height of the wings) to reduce the torque at launch. I can't put a hook anywhere between the body and the wings or the band will end up catching on the glider ( if the hook is in the middle, the band would have to pass through the craft at launch, meaning the glider will crash into your thumb or whatever the thruster mount is). I don't see how this glider, if made out of cardstock could handle the landing either. That could be a question of reinforcement, but that changes the balance of the craft. At this point, I think the hook may not be necessary. The main wing is basically a 'V' when viewed from the front or rear, with the bottom of the valley lopped off. The lower the launch point along the back of the wing is the better the launch characteristics will be. If I take this track, the rubberband launch of those old gliders won't work, but if the catapult is more like a slingshot, with the rubberband going between pillars on either side of the catapult track, it could work, just don't pull it back too far. EDIT -- I also wanted to put another point down, since I probably won't be able to get back to this until Sunday. I am starting to think the best way to keep the wings and body perpendicular to the front is to make these separate parts. The front gluing onto the front end of the body and the wings gluing onto the top edge of the front. And I will have to figure out a way to add some weight towards the front of the glider
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 27, 2020 17:22:14 GMT -9
I wish I could find the sketch that Koichi Kiyonaga used for his Canon model. More solid launching, more mass up front, and more opportunity to hide additional weight up front. But I have to move forward on the path I have chosen
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 31, 2020 8:07:29 GMT -9
Slow progress on this, but progress. I think I have the wing geometry worked out (dang that's a lot of wing). As far as the 'fuselage', it will be done as two fold-overs - one set with tail and one without that will glue under that one. As I look at the figure inset, I don't think he envisioned the pilot to be touching the frame at all. It seems he pictured the pilot in a somewhat crawling position, supported by the hand and foot wing handles, and the circle is there to keep him roughly in position over the frame. Artistic license. He's going to have a small cot-like platform to support him.
I honestly think Da Vinci saw this as something that dropped from a height with a slow, controlled descent.
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 1, 2020 6:09:03 GMT -9
Here's where I got last night I have been bouncing back and forth on textures -- sketch or unique. I think I would like to have both, so I will work on this with sketch graphics for the design, and once designed I can do one with my own textures. If I did my own first, it would be hard to put sketch textures back in
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 1, 2020 17:40:15 GMT -9
Not much progress tonight There are some'new' Canon animals and they are so cute, I couldn't resist
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