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Post by Vermin King on Apr 8, 2021 16:20:24 GMT -9
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Post by monstersbtm on Apr 9, 2021 15:29:32 GMT -9
Following! Very curious to see how this is going to be! 👌👌
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 14, 2021 6:45:35 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 19, 2021 10:50:16 GMT -9
I keep coming back to this image and keep seeing more, especially as I read more articles This is taking place in front of Testa d'Ora, though some artistic license is taking place in the illustration. In front of Testa d'Ora is one of those narrow buildings Not a lot of room to get that view of the facchini, the preparers. I am also unsure of why there is an alley at the end of the building where this spezieria is and another building with two arches before you get to the Rialto Bridge. It certainly isn't that way today. And this doesn't appear to be directly in front of the main entrance, where the golden head is. It isn't in the illustration. The arch to the east of the main entrance is number VIII, and the entrance is number VIIII (not IX) Go two arches down and you see X and XI. I am assuming the similar building to the east has arches I through VII, or one through seven may wrap around this building. Who knows. The makers of Theriaca had special licenses from the Collegio dei Medici, which allowed them to produce the product. Producers of theriaca were known as triacanti. That thing dangling from the banner may have been a sign or just a symbol for theriaca, Vipers above a License, there is a little disagreement on that. On the store banners you can see 'Theriaca' and 'Mitridantu'. Theriaca is the cure-all principally made with viper meat, but contained 69 ingredients. Mitridantum is a cheaper version. Below these you see what looks like either pots with vipers painted on them, or maybe fish bowls with vipers in them. Until the day of the boil-off, the vipers were on public display to guarantee that no substitute snake meat was thrown in. I am a little confused because I have read a couple times that the vipers were in wicker baskets, not pots or fish bowls. Triacanti were allowed to do their boil-offs on one particular day in May. Testa d'Ora was permitted by the doge to have three a year because of the quality of their product. Where the heck did they get all those vipers?
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 22, 2021 19:13:36 GMT -9
Wow, a week left, and I only have one of the faces textured, not even sized, yet. But I think I have a picture in my head on how this should look now.
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 23, 2021 10:58:26 GMT -9
Still having an issue with the ends. I don't want to do hip roofs on this because I picture it fitting between other buildings. But I also want folks to be able to use it without abutting another building, if they want to. Nor should they have to build both halves, if they just want the shop or the workshop. Other than churches or sheds, a traditional peaked roof is a bit rare in Venice, so I am having a hard time picturing how the peaked ends should look. Here's the basic floorplan, which would allow a playable shop and workshop Each building will be a separate structure, meeting along the angled end wall The two primary faces, the long walls The back and narrow end walls (still have to work out the peaked top) That page will be flipped for the other back wall and end. Throwing my roof texture on there, I think this will look nice. I have an idea for the interiors, but don't know how well it will work. Have the upper floors as lift-out boxes. When you lift out the upper floor, you would have access to the main floor underneath. I still have a lot of work to do
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Post by gothique on Apr 24, 2021 1:41:35 GMT -9
Looking great so far. Can I assume that the outer walls would line up with the edges of the riva (which would be shaped accordingly)?
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 24, 2021 5:13:26 GMT -9
I actually pictured the back being a service entrance, either along an alley or small court. The workshop side will have a door. The one in the third post. But if you mirror these for the workshop, there would be no problem sitting it on a riva edge. Frankly, there are a lot of doors opening to canals in Venice, so I guess having a door on a canal is perfectly fine
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 24, 2021 17:04:46 GMT -9
Well, I have had a bug since I was rudely awakened at 4:57 this morning and have not felt like doing a blasted thing. Tonight I decided to look through photos and paintings for peaked building ends. Behind the hip-roofed building in the center In the center (but I think this might be part of a decommissioned church, judging by the bell tower) Top center Behind the building beyond the altana The top of this end wall and the building at the right side I like to have a reason for why I do things, and I think I have enough examples to set a triangle above the end walls, with the stonework as is and additional stonework along the eaves. Now I need to go to my Ca Dario roof work page to grab the roof angles As an aside, I decided to make some backdrops to put behind some of my model photos, only I had to edit out all the modern stuff like antennas, satellite dishes, air conditioners, cranes, power lines,etc. along with all the shadows from them. When I was flipping through images, my before and after were next to each other. Now I find it hard to fight the urge to go back and flip between the two, spotting all the differences
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 24, 2021 18:49:03 GMT -9
I hate it when I need to get to bed, but get on a roll. Using the base template, I can get the wide end done tomorrow. From the narrow end wall, I can get the width of the roof facets. Then with the base dimensions I can get the top and bottom lengths of the roof panels to accommodate the angled end. And now that I know I have at least an hour of work, I can go to bed with a clear conscience
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 25, 2021 15:16:26 GMT -9
Found out that I should have gone to bed earlier ... bad math. Fixed now and have tabs on it. I don't see me having time to do that interior. I still hope to do a sign and chimney, but any of the Ca Dario chimneys will work I also need to get my Epson Paperweight/Paper Shredder to work to build it. It isn't going well EDIT -- I should have held off until a Brother printer was available. Maybe I can donate this stupid thing to a thrift store and take a tax write-off.
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Post by factoria tabletop on Apr 25, 2021 19:32:19 GMT -9
looks pretty good! i love to see how you show the process. this is priceless to me!
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 26, 2021 4:26:47 GMT -9
I just wish I had a decent printer so I could show the build. Once I get work pretty well under control for the day, I will call Epson Tech Support and see if they can get the blasted thing working again. They were able to get it working last time. Fingers crossed
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Post by gothique on Apr 26, 2021 4:39:40 GMT -9
I just wish I had a decent printer so I could show the build. Once I get work pretty well under control for the day, I will call Epson Tech Support and see if they can get the blasted thing working again. They were able to get it working last time. Fingers crossed I have a decent printer, if you need a test build
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 26, 2021 5:40:46 GMT -9
I have a decent printer, if you need a test build I would appreciate that. I think I still have your email. If so, I will email you the pdf's of the files. Thank you
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 27, 2021 5:34:17 GMT -9
After work today, I hope to get back to the hanging signs at Testa d'Oro I think it is a good assumption that the dangly part at the bottom is modern, so it will be replaced with the dangly thing from here I plan on modifying the Caravaggio Medusa for the vipers at the top, and one of the notices for the document underneath I think I have enough images of the head to knock it out I am not great at figures, but I would like to do a facchini, the preparer
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Post by cowboyleland on Apr 27, 2021 7:52:01 GMT -9
I think your comedia figures prove you are good at them, but I feel guilty for not contributing this month so I would like to do the facchini, if you don't mind. (I started without asking)
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 27, 2021 8:18:26 GMT -9
Go for it!
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Post by cowboyleland on Apr 27, 2021 14:20:03 GMT -9
I thought you would say that. This is not great, but as I always say, people want backs but they don't actually look at them closley.
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Post by gothique on Apr 28, 2021 4:04:32 GMT -9
Parts cut and creased. Everything for both parts of this model is included over 5 pages.
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Post by gothique on Apr 28, 2021 4:12:33 GMT -9
I decided to build this as two separate buildings as this option appeared easier and would produce a stable structure. For this option, cut the base down the diagonal and keep the offcut to base the second part. The Spezieria (the shop itself) will be the first part of the build.
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Post by gothique on Apr 28, 2021 4:22:51 GMT -9
The long gable attached
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 28, 2021 4:25:31 GMT -9
That is actually the back of the workshop, sir. The right side of the building. I think I need to put numbers on things for building #1 and building #2
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Post by gothique on Apr 28, 2021 4:25:35 GMT -9
The shop front attached. I strongly recommend gluing to the long gable first. It is much easier completing the walls with a square corner
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 28, 2021 4:41:36 GMT -9
Makes sense. I know you have specific plans for this building, but this is going to leave you with no doors for the workshop. Easily fixed in GIMP
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Post by gothique on Apr 28, 2021 4:44:20 GMT -9
That is actually the back of the workshop, sir. The right side of the building. I think I need to put numbers on things for building #1 and building #2 My finished build may end up a little odd. I intended to have the workshop side crossing a riva into an alley. The second building will have the long side running along the canal. The geometry of these buildings makes a number of configurations possible. It would even be practical to join them in a straight line.
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 28, 2021 4:54:11 GMT -9
Which is what I was going for. On the building east of Testa d'Oro, it has three arches together and then the non-arched section at the end of the main wall.
I was going for a long building that could be configured different ways. It could be fit abutting two buildings on the ends. Or one of the ends could be left open. Or it could be a free-standing building. Or it could be divided into two buildings, either abutting other buildings or standing alone.
This same arch treatment is seen on the Rialto Bridge. Part of my thought process on this was to design the shop openings under the arches to make a sort of template that I could use in the Bridge design
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 28, 2021 10:24:32 GMT -9
gothique sent me additional photos. I am excited to see this on his board. Whether you are building as one building or two, each side is built as a separate building. And yes, you can swap parts to fit your needs. In this case, only the Spezieria is needed. I now have the parts numbered for building #1 and building #2, but you can feel free to build however you see fit. I really need to work on the sign, but I had my first vaccination today, and even though I don't see it as a side-effect, I am lethargic as all get out.
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 29, 2021 5:02:42 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 29, 2021 12:48:55 GMT -9
I may sound like a broken record, but ... As a designer, I thoroughly enjoy when others build my designs. My smile gets even bigger, when they think enough of the model to modify it to fit their needs. gothique has added a new dimension to this. He is modifying his board to better display and use the model. As is, there is a ramp going from a 1-inch base to a 2-inch base that is directly in front of the shop. You can sort of see the ramp in the second photo above. He now has modified the ramp section to allow a wider walkway in front of the shop. <= smiling big
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