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Post by okumarts on Jun 12, 2021 13:08:27 GMT -9
I really want to build a Victorian London tabletop for when my friends are able to return after COVID. Are there any forum buildings that I'm forgetting about? Aside from train set stuff, this seems to be a hard to find genre which is puzzling to me.
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Post by okumarts on Jun 12, 2021 13:16:02 GMT -9
I know there are Stoelzel's Structures, but I haven't heard or seen much of what people think of them.
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Post by Gentleman Ranker on Jun 13, 2021 1:56:26 GMT -9
I haven't got any of these so take anything I say with a pinch of salt but... Some of the Whitewash City stuff from Hotz Stuff will also be the right period, though it's intended for wild west so you'll probably get most joy with banks and public buildings. Stoelzels carriage house looks good. Egg sucking advice follows! Some areas of the city will definitely still contain tudor half timbered buildings and a lot of dave graffam's Inns etc will probably fit. His free Country House looks a bit...well...country but looks correct for period. Early Victorian author ladies could certainly live there! Some of Dave Graffam's World War ruins will fill in nicely in the warehouse district if given their brick skins. Some floor plan streams in their muddier variants can stand for the paved over rivers of old London. Red Brick warehouses with loading docks will also be a worthwhile choice. These all live in that scene in Oliver twist where Bill Sykes is on the run! I would think that some of the multi level papercraft folks here have been creating for their Venice games would come in useful. Elevated cobbled streets with stone steps leading down to riverside docks.
Antebellum mansions and colonial houses and plantation houses will be the right period for the grander establishments. Anything with Georgian archictecture. The Royal Crescent in Bath is perhaps the most famous example. I couldn't find a paper model of it. This is the closest I got. Building Worksheet
Nice Mansion in the Halloween Hoard 2019(I think), Hoard 169. And a Victorian Pagoda/bandstand for the park a bit earlier in Hoard 157.
Hope it goes well. I'm look forward to seeing what you make! GR
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Post by wyvern on Jun 13, 2021 5:00:56 GMT -9
I know there are Stoelzel's Structures, but I haven't heard or seen much of what people think of them. I have quite a number of these, though I've not made any up into models still. They are very detailed, with full interiors as well as exteriors, but the snag is they rely on being built using foamcore sheets, so if (like me) you want to resize them to less than 28mm/32mm scale, there could be problems. The PDF kits don't use layers, so for any alternative skins provided, you'll have to check through and remember which of the sometimes hundreds of pages you'll need to print off instead, which can get confusing. It's also a bit annoying to find there sometimes isn't a "plain" version without the clutter printed onto floors/walls, which reduces the customisation options as well. These are the main reasons why I haven't got round to building any, for all I do like them because of all the interior/exterior detailing. And you often get a LOT of freestanding props as well. One or another of the models come round fairly often as the Deal of the Day on Wargame Vault, which is how I've picked-up most of what I have, and if you're not sure, I'd suggest that as an entrypoint, in case they don't work well enough for what you need.
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 13, 2021 14:55:55 GMT -9
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Post by okumarts on Jun 13, 2021 15:25:54 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 13, 2021 17:01:51 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 14, 2021 5:16:38 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 15, 2021 11:32:34 GMT -9
tuckdbephemera.org/categories/13/paper-toy?in=650 will get you some vehicles. At the bottom of the page, go to page 17 to get some of them in French, along with the horse-drawn fire truck in French I know I have seen buildings credited to Tuck, so I went through category after category trying to find them without success. One of those situations where you cannot unsee things. If you do any searching there, be prepared for some extremely racist stuff, especially under Edward. I wonder if the royal printer ever had qualms about what was commissioned... or if they shared the same views
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 16, 2021 5:07:49 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 16, 2021 8:35:26 GMT -9
I wish I knew where to find this one
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Post by okumarts on Jun 16, 2021 9:16:13 GMT -9
I wish I knew where to find this one Ironically, THAT is exactly what I need... I may just need to build one.
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Post by okumarts on Jun 16, 2021 9:24:04 GMT -9
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Post by okumarts on Jun 16, 2021 9:25:24 GMT -9
It looks like this in the comic.
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Post by Zephalo on Jun 16, 2021 10:15:37 GMT -9
I wish I knew where to find this one It's a quite old book: British PubMaybe David (or someone alse) can find it in an antiquarian bookshop... Greetings, Zephalo
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Post by okumarts on Jun 16, 2021 10:36:18 GMT -9
I wish I knew where to find this one It's a quite old book: British PubMaybe David (or someone alse) can find it in an antiquarian bookshop... Greetings, Zephalo Good Find! 1993 really wasn't THAT long ago! That was the year I published Contraption Issue One.
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 16, 2021 17:10:37 GMT -9
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Post by okumarts on Jun 17, 2021 17:13:24 GMT -9
hmm... I think I can work with what I have, but I will have to make my own stuff... really, I just need to work on the rooftop.
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Post by okumarts on Jun 17, 2021 18:23:15 GMT -9
I don't have time for this...
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Post by okumarts on Jun 17, 2021 18:49:06 GMT -9
A quick mockup...
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Post by okumarts on Jun 17, 2021 18:49:53 GMT -9
They would have an interior and be stackable.. Shown here is a 2 story, plus roof
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 18, 2021 4:31:44 GMT -9
When do you have to have this by?
One thought that was going through my head 'Is there a rule set out there for Sherlock Holmes?'
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Post by okumarts on Jun 18, 2021 4:46:51 GMT -9
When do you have to have this by? One thought that was going through my head 'Is there a rule set out there for Sherlock Holmes?' Oh, I just started a Contraption campaign using my Save the Day game. It's a two-fisted science fiction gaslamp adventure campaign with my friends. I kinda wanted to move from Theatre of the Mind (as we used for session zero and one) and start using minis around mid July. I think I could have a few pieces built by then, but we are heading to a cottage for holiday and I am never very productive there. We shall see.
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Post by okumarts on Jun 18, 2021 5:29:19 GMT -9
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Post by okumarts on Jun 18, 2021 5:31:51 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 18, 2021 5:35:46 GMT -9
I don't know if the link is still around, but Mauther posted a link to a London Store Front site once. If I can find the post tonight, I will post the link EDIT -- www.blogger.com/www.londonshopfronts.com is no longer available, nor can it be pulled up from Wayback Machine
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Post by wyvern on Jun 18, 2021 11:05:14 GMT -9
Looking at your example shots here, have you tried looking for model railway papercraft models? The downside is these tend to be - on the British market - OO scale (1:76 scale, roughly 20mm in wargame terms) and may not scale-up well to 28mm. O scale (1:43 scale British, 1:48 scale International) would be better, but I can't recall any British manufacturers in this scale. Two places to check-out if this might be of interest: Wordsworth Model Railway - All kits are free, but they are basic exterior models only, and all in OO scale. Scalescenes - Paid-for kits in OO or N scale (N is 1:148), but they are good quality, and quite a number have interiors and some props. There are three free downloads as well, so you can try before you buy. There's also a page on rescaling the kits, which does suggest scaling up to O scale should be possible, though I've not tried that.
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Post by cowboyleland on Jun 18, 2021 14:42:16 GMT -9
Out of curiosity I downloaded "Hannah's Cottage" from Wordsworth's site. I imported the pdf into GIMP and enlarged it 127% which resulted in a doorway 33 mm high. It didn't lose much resolution on screen, though I did not try to print it.
I did the same with the gas station and the text only faded a little and the "sharpen" filter brought it back. I think they would be fine for gaming. It would take a bit of work redistrubut the parts over a few pages unless you can somehow print ~11" x ~14" pages.
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