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Post by josedominguez on Dec 27, 2011 5:02:32 GMT -9
Full armour was made for the battlefield, but 'adventuring armour' would be far lighter and I'd imagine would be heavily influenced by style and convenience. E.g. a thief would quickly ditch the leg plate and maybe only have arms and chest armoured, an archer would lose the chest and back plate really quickly, vambraces etc.. would need to be modified too. Look at our troops in Afghanistan, they have access to armour plates etc... but most I've spoken to don't bother with a lot of it, they keep the helmet, the ammo gloves and sometimes the forearm and elbow pads, not many bother with all of the rigid plates as they'd rather be able to move quickly. I look at regimental figures as 'soldiers' who would stick to full armour etc.... but heroes and Player characters are individuals, their armour would be as individual as a gladiator and owe as much to style as function e.g. heavy armour on the shoulders and head to allow quick movement and a more entertaining fight. The armour worn by a female ranger is as likely to be intended to look cool as to offer protection. If we are going for sensible then most models would look pretty similar except for their shield design
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 27, 2011 9:48:03 GMT -9
You make some very valid points there. A thief in full plate would probably not be successful for much longer. When you look at historical armor, there is a lot of variation, generally tied to functionality and of course expense.
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Post by stevelortz on Dec 27, 2011 13:49:17 GMT -9
I find the late-100 Years War/Wars of the Roses armor interesting. Knights wore full plate, sergeants, et al., wore what ever they wanted to cobble together: brigandines for the chest/back with bits and pieces of plate for the arms and legs. A variety of metal helmets. Sallets are my favorites. Open-faced bascinets were also popular among the lower ranks. Archers were less heavily armed. Maybe a brigandine and a small helmet.
There was Italian-style armor that was characterized by smooth surfaces, and Gothic-style that sported fluting on the broad surfaces.
A little later... say, the Italian wars... pikemen of the front rank would wear as much plate as they could scrape together (they weren't as wealthy as the chivalric classes). Infantry tassets would be at a premium. The rear ranks would be less armored, if at all.
Back to the earl-1400s, we've got Joan of Arc as a female in armor, and there are plenty of images of her!
In the mid-to-late-1000s, Robert Guiscard (which might be translated "Robert the WiseA$$") was leading a biker gang of Normans on horses around southern Italy establishing himself as the Duke of Apulia. Robert's 2nd wife, Sikelgaita, fought alongside him on the battlefield in full armor (which was full chainmail at that time, with kite-shields, like the Bayeaux Tapestry). Sikelgaita was also one tough castellan!
Mercenary armor, which our adventurers' would most probably resemble, would be a mixed bag of pieces they had looted from the battlefield, but not very likely to be full plate, except possibly for the captains.
Plus, knights generally didn't wear their armor except when they were preparing for battle or a tourney. They would but their chainmail in leather bags with sand and vinegar, and play medicine-ball with the package, to polish the chainmail and keep up their muscle tone at the same time.
Also, during the First Franco-Dahomey War in the 1890s, the French Foreign Legion supposedly took heavy casualties when they first came up against the Dahomey Amazons, and were very disconcerted to be fighting teen-age girls waving their private parts around!
Have Fun! Steve
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Post by slimyscaly on Dec 29, 2011 19:45:48 GMT -9
I love a scantily-clad woman warrior. However, she might get dinged up a little in the parts I love, so if you want to make this game more believable, put more armor on them. But if you want to appeal to the guys more and make it more abstract, then you should go with less armor.
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Post by okumarts on Jan 8, 2012 15:01:23 GMT -9
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Post by Rhannon on Jan 8, 2012 22:19:06 GMT -9
[edit]Ok, seriously ( it's hard for me ;D ) I uderstand that real historical integrity is not all. But there is too a right search, a request, for a logical, sensible, integrity. And this is one medal's face. Other face ... fantasy is fantasy for me. play, game, visuals, other worlds, beauty, author's personal view ... In fantasy ( sci-fi ... ) magic ( or unknown technology... ) is an armor too. It isn't our reality. But reality in their worlds. Sorry, my very bad english does not allow me to explain exactly what I think. But ... many miniatures' series, many great sculptors ... accord some, not all, of our realistic sense to the image's beauty. And I like it ( too ). Imho.
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Post by glennwilliams on Jan 9, 2012 8:27:38 GMT -9
One of the many things I disliked about Dungeon Siege III was Katarina's armor: hair pins and thigh highs could be "upgraded" to provide armor. It was just silly. The actress who played the Mord Sith Cara in Legend of the Seeker (Tabrett Bethell) remarked that she was always falling over in those high-heeled boots.
I'll hold for more realistic armor and equipment, leaving Miss Chainmail for the runway.
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Post by josedominguez on Jan 9, 2012 9:05:02 GMT -9
Halter top +1, -1 vs Ice elementals
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Post by Rhannon on Jan 9, 2012 9:52:59 GMT -9
One of the many things I disliked about Dungeon Siege III was Katarina's armor: hair pins and thigh highs could be "upgraded" to provide armor. It was just silly. The actress who played the Mord Sith Cara in Legend of the Seeker (Tabrett Bethell) remarked that she was always falling over in those high-heeled boots. I'll hold for more realistic armor and equipment, leaving Miss Chainmail for the runway. I have nothing against full realistic armor but I like too, in fantasy, miss chainmail ( 2012 I hope ) . I liked play DSIII with katarina ( best characters, imho, for hard difficulty ), I like tv version of mord siths ( with high-heeled boots. But I don't use these boots, only military boots ;D ) I like realistic armors, realistic situations .. but my life is full of realistic situations, so sometimes, when I can, I also like fantasya rmors and fantastic situations.
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Post by Rhannon on Jan 9, 2012 9:53:49 GMT -9
Halter top +1, -1 vs Ice elementals Beautiful!!! Very good!!! ( is it your? ). Now I need the back. ;D PS: I wait, with no hurry, your next project ( joseshordes.webeden.co.uk/ ) in 15 mm. but in 30 mm. too. ... And a your e-mail.
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Post by glennwilliams on Jan 9, 2012 13:39:11 GMT -9
Halter top +1, -1 vs Ice elementals Ok. That's so good I withdraw my objections.
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Post by josedominguez on Jan 10, 2012 2:08:53 GMT -9
Still didn't give her nips though...... which is odd, 'cos all my male savage orcs seem to have them.
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