Black Sun Wars - Starter set - RELEASED -

[dragnoz]

The first release for Black Sun Wars is the Human faction starter spaceship set.

The set uses a modular building system, scalable printing and multiple colour variations for most of the models that allows you to create a near infinite amount of ship variations.

Why modular?
We specifically designed the sets to be modular so that you can truly have a unique fleet, no matter how many friends or gamers own the set, we can guarantee that no two builds will be the same. Its real simple to use, all the components are created from mostly basic shapes that can be assembled in any way you see fit. You can even mix and max different ships components, for example just out of the Battleship we were able to create one large frigate and a battleship and used some of the left over pieces to add weapons to the freighter set.

Not a kit basher or modular player?
No problem at all, each ship comes with full instructions on how to assemble it to resemble the original design. But trust us…. You will very soon be printing it out and modding it because its just sooo easy to totally get creative and unique with your builds.

Is there a Black Sun Wars gaming system?
Not yet, we will shortly launch a kickstarter campaign to help raise the funds we need to develop the Black Sun Wars system as well as 3 extra factions.

The Starter set contains:
1x Battlecruiser
2x Frigates
1x Freighter
1x assortment of fighters
1x Stand and assembly instructions

It does not look like a lot but due to the modular nature of ships there is thousands upon thousands of assembly, colour and size variations.

A weapon and utility pack will follow shortly with the weapon stat cards.

Why is the frigates centred and only one per page?
This allows you to scale the model using just your printer settings, this increases the modular components available to build new ships.

Suggested Paper weights

• Battlecruiser - 160gsm
  
• Frigates - 120gsm
  
• Freighter - 120 - 160gsm
  
• Assortment of fighters - 80-90gsm
  
• Stand and assembly instructions - 160gsm
  

Battlecruiser (length 20cm / 7.8 inches)


Frigate 1 (length 7cm / 2.7 inches)


Freighter (Length 14cm / 5.5 inches)


Frigate 2 & Fighters (Frigate Length 8cm / 3.1 inches, Fighters Length 1.3cm / 0.5 inches)


Alternative Builds for Battlecruiser & Frigates



Skill Level
Beginner - Intermediate - Advanced
1-2-3 ------- 4-5-6-7------- 8-9-10

Battlecruiser Skill levels
Cutting Level: 4+
Glueing Level: 4+
AssemblyLevel: 3+
Time: 2-3 hours

Frigates Skill Level (at 100% print size)
Cutting Level: 4+
Glueing Level: 5+
AssemblyLevel: 3+
Time: 1-2 hours

Freighter Skill Level
Cutting Level: 4+
Glueing Level: 4+
AssemblyLevel: 3+
Time: 1-2 hours

Fighters Skill Level
Cutting Level: 7+
Glueing Level: 6+
AssemblyLevel: 6+
Time: 1-2 hours

Stands / Supports Skill Level
Cutting Level: 3+
Glueing Level: 4+
AssemblyLevel: 2+
Time: 1-2 hours


...and last but not least a little fun video that shows the scale and size of the ships



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Which systems are compatible with with this starter set?

SPecial discount price for forum member only $7 please use following link bit.ly/OknwAd

[Rhannon]

Jul 23, 2012 14:00:51 GMT -9 dragnoz said:

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Did you know our Facebook fans get a 15% discount?
Not only will you get a discount for each new release but you will be able to keep up to date with all our latest releases and any new free models figures we release.

So follow us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/DesktopWargames

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SPecial discount price for forum member only $7 please use following link bit.ly/PBY1gP

1- I don't know facebook very well. How can I become a follower?

2- I follow the link for forum members. But the final price remains 9,99 $

Thanks.

[aleks73]

SPecial discount price for forum member only $7 please use following link bit.ly/LKn40S

I have 7$ ready... but Wargamevault says 9,99
waiting for some info before buying

P.S now seems to work!

[dragnoz]

erm... sorry i was being a bit special and didnt get the URL right... sigh... RPGnow is not the easiest of systems to use.

here is the correct link bit.ly/OknwAd

As to the facebook page, all you have to do is fo to the page and hit the like button. this will give you access to the discounts tab (the one next to photos) BUT! the discount for forum members is much better so use the link above instead

[Rhannon]

OK, thanks.

But the special discount price for forum members is $7 or $8?

Because the new link is 8$.

[aleks73]

MINE!!! ;D

I'm the first buyers!! ;D

really good textures...
fighters are scaring small; Battleship will look really awesome.

which kind of paper/cardboard is better to build your ships?

[dragnoz]

AH! thats what i forgot to add... LOL I knew i forgot something!

Thanks aleks73!

Ok so here is the suggested paper weights.

• Battlecruiser - 160gsm
  
• Frigates - 120gsm
  
• Freighter - 120 - 160gsm
  
• Assortment of fighters - 80-90gsm
  
• Stand and assembly instructions - 160gsm
  

hehe yes the fighters does at first seem very very small but after building a couple you'll be surprised that they dont scare you so much anymore ;-)

[dragnoz]

But the special discount price for forum members is $7 or $8?

Apologies Rhannon, I'm having trouble getting these codes to work... I think I confused the system with the multiple code generations.

here is the €7 link [
url]http://www.rpgnow.com/index.php?discount=99366 [/url]
please let me know if it works for you... some browsers ive tested it on kept showing the €8 might be my cache... but please do try again.

[PhantomBaz]

makes me wish i have friends over there to play them with

[Rhannon]

Jul 23, 2012 23:08:37 GMT -9 dragnoz said:

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please let me know if it works for you... some browsers ive tested it on kept showing the €8 might be my cache... but please do try again.

Perfect! Thanks.

[dragnoz]

I would really be interested to know what battle systems you guys will be using these ships with, would like to add it to the description on RPGnow...

Thanks everyone for the support so far :-)

[uptrainfan89]

I know they are to scale with WWG wormhole ships and work well with the full thrust rules as well. That's all I've tested so far lol. ;D

[kiladecus]

I have this in my "Wish List." I need to wait until payday or sell some more Minotaurs/Wizards.

I re-discovered FULL THRUST recently, and I will most likely use them with that.

Although, it would be failry easy (in theory) to convert ARMOR GRID'S MECH ATTACK over to being "BLACK SUN ATTACK."

Either system would work, and if you chose the second option, it would help out WaffleM and Dagger, too!

Just my thoughts...

[aleks73]

FULL THRUST!!! the best free ruleset, solid, complete and with a strong fan base.
A Call to Arms, in the flavour you prefer (B5 or Noble Armada)
(both need to scale down the models or change the measurement unit, MU is a nice feature in FT )

Firestorm Armada and Wormhole seem to be in the right scale, but I've never tried them.

Star Wars Starship Battles fits well the mood and scale of Dragnoz ships.

A resource for free ruleset www.freewargamesrules.co.uk/sci-fi.html

An article on starship scale and game size (squdron or fleets)
www.star-ranger.com/Scale.htm

and, of course, Wargamevault!

www.wargamevault.com/index.php?filters=40110_40201_40014_0

[gilius]

Picked up the models today and I must say I'm even more impressed with the textures looking at them in the PDF than I already was from the pictures. Lots of detail and a great style. Now I gotta try and build some of them to have them on my desk...

[aleks73]

Dragnoz, piece n° 9 of the freighter have missed tabs,
not a big problem, but you may correct it (hope I'm using right verbal forms, my english is so bad )

[dragnoz]

Thanks a million for bringing this to my attention! I have updated the freighter file, please download it again

BTW I would LOVE to see the configurations you guys come up with. Please post some photos. I would like to also use them on the facebook page and website :-)