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Post by Vermin King on Aug 16, 2015 17:46:49 GMT -9
I originally found this on the blog, ilfavolosomondodicartaditoto.blogspot.com/, which was formerly an excellent source of vintage models. Then I found that Patricia had better scans at Agence Eureka, bibigreycat.blogspot.com/2009_03_16_archive.html. When I first discovered the models from Illustreret Familie-Journal, my thought was to do a set of these for my grandmother's window shelf at the nursing home, but she liked animals more than buildings. Then I wondered if I could clean it up enough to put into my model railroad layout, if I ever decide to put it back together. But this contest has gotten me thinking about it again. I like the looks of it, but it needs cleaning up and would benefit from layering. If the project had moved along better, I'd have done an interior. It also needed figures that were also vintage, and needed to be close to the proper time frame and have similar style. Found the figures at the Children's Museum of the Victoria and Albert Museum. For this contest all had to be scaled to 28mm. The additional figures needed a lot of help on colorization and had to be sized up 66% to be close to scale. Here's what I started with    Edit: Found the source for the additional figures from the Children's Museum. Thank goodness for Wayback Machine. web.archive.org/web/20080713115528/http://www.vam.ac.uk/moc/kids/things_to_make/build_your_owns/index.html   (Final pictures added by Squirmydad) |
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Post by berneart76 on Aug 16, 2015 18:04:47 GMT -9
Can't wait to see the final development!
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 17, 2015 4:43:29 GMT -9
I spent way too much time on the car and coach. There is texturing, but also wear. Reducing the wear while maintaining texture is tedious and I realized early on that it was going to have to be a compromise. I also did not want white backsides of wheels and fenders sticking out, which meant a little re-design and mirror pieces to glue into some of the areas. For the springs that will show on the inside of the carriage, I finally gave up trying to keep the leaf springs by digitally working on it, but instead will just break out the Sharpie doing them in all black.
I wish I'd had more time to work on this. I'd really like to do it better than I think it will come out
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Post by Cardstock Dane on Aug 17, 2015 13:14:59 GMT -9
This is exciting. The models in Familie Journalen are cult among paper nerds in my contry.  Can't wait to see the result of this project. |
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 17, 2015 14:46:17 GMT -9
I wish I could find more of them ... within my budget
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 19, 2015 12:43:49 GMT -9
I mentioned greebling in another thread, so I thought I would post a couple shots of this 'in-process'  Most of the pages need to be printed twice, and before printing, some of the detail work was added again separately with Gimp. Starting with the front/right side piece, I wanted the wood frame and the brickwork above and below the windows raised. I want the window and loft door opening recessed. The loft door is in front of the framework, so it has been placed on the framework piece. I'm not done with this, but this should give a good idea.  The right side is done, but on the 'front' I want to have the doors on the same level as the plaster, with the hinges in the outer layer, but it is coming along well. For a magazine model, I'm probably putting more into it than I should, but it does have a lot of charm, and I'll probably only build it once, so why not... It is certainly going to be more sturdy than building it straight |
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Post by berneart76 on Aug 19, 2015 12:50:37 GMT -9
I too aspire to become a greeble master! The in process shots are looking great!
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 19, 2015 13:07:56 GMT -9
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Post by berneart76 on Aug 19, 2015 13:19:44 GMT -9
I used to make Shadow boxes as gifts using a similar technique with greeting cards when I was WAY younger.... when i started my Customs house, I was thinking that this method would work well for some of the stone arches around the windows, etc. I never realized there was an actual term for the technique!
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 19, 2015 13:50:22 GMT -9
I should have done this for the carriage also, but it is already going to be a push for time. Some folks call this laminating or layering. Greebling is anything that adds detail and depth.
As there are actually two carriages and two cars, I still might, but it depends on available time
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 22, 2015 10:09:14 GMT -9
Setback time. In doing this kind of work, there is a lot of dry-fitting and figuring out what needs to be re-worked. Unfortunately, my Bootsie girl (one of the most outrageously mischevious cats ever born) jumped out of my lap and grabbed a detail piece out of my hand and mangled it. In jumping away, she botched up a section that was already done.
Been sorting out what can be salvaged and what needs reprinted.
And yes, she lives to tell the tale...
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 22, 2015 15:30:50 GMT -9
Three hours of repair and replacement later...  I had hoped to have the stairs done, roof constructed, and maybe start mounting everything by now. The stairs are also a bit troublesome. I don't want plain paper showing, so the main structure of the stairs is actually a mirror image mounted in place so that have wood grain on the inside railing, and wood grain on that little bit of tab that is going to show. The correct alignment part is segmented and glued onto the back of the mirror. I've got a handrail lining the inside, and still have the detail layer for the outside. Then I get to put the stairs together and install to the wall. I'd originally planned on doing an interior with open doors and gates like the model image.  |
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Post by afet on Aug 23, 2015 8:34:31 GMT -9
This is fantastic project. I like seeing the narrative of how it's coming together.
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 23, 2015 9:59:51 GMT -9
Today I can move onto the carriage. I finished the carriage house last night. I had originally set up the pages so that I could make a carriage 'as-designed' and one that is more detailed. After a few comments and communications, I am now thinking of going much more detailed on the carriage, which can be done with the parts already printed. Just figuring out how I want to do it. Here's a few previews of the building    |
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Post by afet on Aug 23, 2015 11:02:54 GMT -9
Beautiful.
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 23, 2015 11:33:16 GMT -9
I am a big fan of the vintage models. Well, at least the well done ones. Between the style of the building, the fantastic wood work, the plaster crumbling off the brick work and the stone foundations, I fell in love with this one when I first saw it. I didn't find a scan in good condition and it stayed near the top of my to-do pile, but never got built. I wish I could capture the depth that the lamination brings. It really looks very good in person. I figure that my prize for this contest is a very nice build of a building I wanted to do for a long time. If I can share some technique and my interest in vintage models with others, then I'm ahead in the game
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 26, 2015 11:48:39 GMT -9
Well, a carriage house needs the carriage. It can be 'slapped together', but that isn't what I wanted to do. I was somewhat naïve to think that a hand-drawn model carriage would be symmetrical. Things do not line up well at all. I have examined the pieces of the two carriages and realize I have to scale back what I want to do. What it really needs is to be re-designed, which I will probably do after this is over. When I do that, I will make the file available. And if anyone would like my cleaned-up and re-scaled files, you can send me your email address in a PM.
Once this is over, I'm going to re-format the pages, so that the parts are arranged more logically. I might have a go at re-designing the car, too. It really should have had a windscreen.
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Post by oldschooldm on Aug 26, 2015 12:04:57 GMT -9
Well, a carriage house needs the carriage. It can be 'slapped together', but that isn't what I wanted to do. I was somewhat naïve to think that a hand-drawn model carriage would be symmetrical. Things do not line up well at all. I have examined the pieces of the two carriages and realize I have to scale back what I want to do. What it really needs is to be re-designed, which I will probably do after this is over. When I do that, I will make the file available. And if anyone would like my cleaned-up and re-scaled files, you can send me your email address in a PM. Once this is over, I'm going to re-format the pages, so that the parts are arranged more logically. I might have a go at re-designing the car, too. It really should have had a windscreen. Dude. Feel your pain. Was there when I scaled up the hand-drawn Parc Guell model. Only making cutfiles saved my skin (by allowing me to make opposite sides align as cutlines, then warping the hand-drawn textures to fit.) Please know that some of us deeply respect the level of work that goes into these restoration-conversions. When it is done, I know I'd love a copy as it is exactly the kind of model I could build as a gift for non-gaming friends. |
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 26, 2015 13:29:47 GMT -9
A cutter would definitely come in handy if you were to do the lamination technique on the detail-work.
Gonna have to do some hand-coloring while I edge, but I think I have a solution that will work for this build.
But I am determined to go back through and fix it for the future.
I know what you are saying about gifts for non-gaming friends. Two of my friends that saw this came back with 'Now you know what to get me for Christmas'. Another wanted to buy it.
Of course I will make it available, just be aware, that the bulk of this was not my creation. I have been unable to identify the original artist, and I've seen one source that says this was from 1919, and a different source that says 1929. But the magazine name is correct!
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Post by berneart76 on Aug 26, 2015 14:54:37 GMT -9
I understand the difficulty as well, one of my background projects has been cleaning up the old WGB Townscape buildings. It's amazing when the tabs and the sides they are supposed to glue to aren't even the same height/width... |
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 26, 2015 18:59:46 GMT -9
Wow, and that isn't even that old
BTW ... got the carriage to an acceptable level
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Post by berneart76 on Aug 26, 2015 22:15:47 GMT -9
GDW-not that old, but not well executed, early effort from when they still accepted fan made stuff/ mazing how my first efition of WH40K included instructions for making your own terrain basically a kitbashed Land
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 27, 2015 7:02:31 GMT -9
 Gonna finish!!! |
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 27, 2015 9:36:17 GMT -9
Question: When I go to do the new pages of this, would you all prefer to just have a page for the carriage, or is it okay to have it in the margins of the carriage house?
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Post by oldschooldm on Aug 27, 2015 10:21:09 GMT -9
Question: When I go to do the new pages of this, would you all prefer to just have a page for the carriage, or is it okay to have it in the margins of the carriage house? Having the carriage as a separate page, for building alone, would be nice. I don't think that paper is considered a scarce resource for most of us. :-) |
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 31, 2015 17:03:35 GMT -9
... Love, Randy Okay, forgive me for that, but I couldn't resist. Had to get 90% there, and I think it's time to just post. |
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Post by mproteau (Paper Realms) on Aug 31, 2015 17:05:52 GMT -9
Well, that turned out just lovely!
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Post by berneart76 on Aug 31, 2015 17:08:16 GMT -9
Bravo Sir! Well Done on surviving all the trials, tribulations and cat-astrophes this has gone through! Glad to see this make the deadline! Lovely models like this should not be lost to the ravages of time.
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 31, 2015 17:20:07 GMT -9
Thanks, guys. This was a project I wanted to do for a very long time. There are still some things that I fixed with a pen instead of in the repaint that I want to get onto the template. Other things I made large copies of things so that I could just cut out a few elements. After the carriage disaster, I didn't even attempt to fix the automobile. Thus we have 'The Coach House'. After I do something simple, I'm planning on getting the templates fixed. Thanks for following along
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Post by squirmydad on Aug 31, 2015 19:28:13 GMT -9
I added the finished pics into the first post so people don't have to scroll through the entire thread when voting starts tomorrow. They'll want to scroll through though as there is an abundance of good ideas and information here. |
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Can't wait to see the result of this project. 
