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Post by mesper on Sept 10, 2015 18:20:20 GMT -9
Hi Everyone! Knights! Mounted knights, heavy armoured, with plates and chainmail; equipped with shields, spears, swords, banners etc. IMHO there is not enough of these (figurines:) So I'd like to submit some "classic" mounted knights, OK these are kinda "cliche" but perhaps you will find some use for them? But there is also another one reason for publishing this miniset! Hello. My name's Patryk and I was looking for some stuff from PERMES, because I wanted to remind myself figures from my childhood. Cheers So... These knights are kinda "leftovers" from Kartonowa Armmia magazine published by PERMES somewhere in 2004. Original magazine printed page was looking like this: Original figurines are ca. 60mm scale and as you can see bases are part of figurines, so in case of mounted figurine there is not much space left on a A4 format page - so it took a lot of "creativity" in order to pose figurines and optimal arrange the whole page - it was important/crucial to use/fill the whole page (please remember - we are talking here not about PDF or other e-format but professional PRINTED sheets - heavy/costly cardboard, with additional lacquer layer etc). So in many case these technical issues causes some restrictions - for example there was quite tough to lay-out mounted knight with banner or prancer horse. Well, so many figurines ended as unfinished and unpublished... some of these were lucky and after some modding and enhancement find their way into more "modern" digital versions. Actually these 15 or in some cases even 20 year old figs looks quite dated... some (if not most) looks kinda rough and even silly now:) Still I have a lot of sentiment for these oldest figurines. (Then I'm quite often reusing some of these oldies applying new colours, textures, shadows, exchanging or replacing accessories whenever possible - shame on me:) But THESE free knights are almost untouched (some of you will notice horses are taken from Kartonowa Armia Issue #4 - Republic Rome). As for now - these figs looks (at last for me) kinda dingy and old-fashioned, nowadays I'd change so many things, use different techniques etc. but still somehow I like these figs - these brings back some memories! Anyway, after oipsycho posts, I've decided to revive some memories and release these once abandoned figurines, hope you will find some use for these brave knights! PERMES FREE miniset #12 direct download link: PERMES Mounted KnightsENJOY /Mesper
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Post by oipsycho on Sept 11, 2015 0:52:26 GMT -9
Wow! Thank you very much! It's a honour being tagged in your post. I'm going to print some figures in the future, you're great mesper
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Post by tomwh on Jan 16, 2016 19:18:28 GMT -9
Is this still available? When I click on the link I get "404 not found error".
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Post by pavaro on Jan 17, 2016 20:59:12 GMT -9
I'm afraid that mesper closed your website.
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Post by tomwh on Jan 18, 2016 6:55:36 GMT -9
That is truly sad, thanks for letting me know
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Post by tomwh on May 5, 2016 3:56:15 GMT -9
Is there any chance you will bundle all the freebies lost when you closed your website and putting them on RPGNow? It could be Free, PWYW, or Priced. I would gladly pay for PERMES bundled goodness.
Thanks Tom
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Post by mesper on May 5, 2016 11:12:20 GMT -9
<...> Is there any chance you will bundle all the freebies lost when you closed your website and putting them on RPGNow? It could be Free, PWYW, or Priced. I would gladly pay for PERMES bundled goodness <...> Hmm... didn't though but kinda really like this idea! Actually there was: - 16 x PERMES Free Mini-Sets - 14 x 24H Mini-Sets - some "standalone" minis posted here and there with or without occasion Obviously I'm not counting my CWF Hoard submissions (not sure but at least 11 of these?) - as these freebies already belongs to CWF community and are available (thanks old squirmydad and all CWF staff!)Most of these minis are quite different: various historical periods, different fantasy realms and even different art-style. So it would be kinda "bag" with a broad variety of content. But it can be combined into a let's say one or two huge bundle-sets (as I have also quite a lot unpublished variations/versions of these minis, then I have really a lot of "singles" ie separate minis without any belongingness, so that would be their one and only chance to be introduced to the "outside-my-drive" world:) How such combined set(s) or bundle(s) should be titled? Just an idea: I could add an intro-page within each set/bundle (as well as text within set/bundle description) which would tell that these minis were primarily released at Cardboard Warriors Forums, and that there is a great community here (+link), so perhaps it would bring here some more people? Still dunno if it would be accepted by old squirmydad et consortes? Well, I'll start to browse and gather all these sets and minis (some might be lost), so who knows? Anyway, tomwh thanks for input!
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Post by tomwh on May 6, 2016 3:04:29 GMT -9
How such combined set(s) or bundle(s) should be titled? "Odds and Ends" "Bits and Pieces" "Random Acts Mini-Sets" "Miniatures and Mini-Sets" "One-Offs and Micro Themes"
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Post by squirmydad on May 6, 2016 11:13:23 GMT -9
I like it.
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Post by mesper on May 17, 2016 8:57:33 GMT -9
While browsing through old projects in search of mini-sets for above mentioned sets/bundles I've found some " leftovers". Most of these are Medieval or Dark Ages (Vikings, Francks, Holy German Empire) periods minis. BTW I can reveal that I'm planning several standalone sets or even mini-series with Slavic Medieval warriors: like Polish, Czech/Bohemia (Taborites) and Russia (Duchy of Novgorod), probably even Tatars as opponents - and that sounds like a quite decent idea (at least for me:) But till now had no idea what to do with these medieval "singles" - one or two figurines here, two or three there etc. So perhaps it would be good idea to gather these in one or two in general "medieval" sets (some style unification would be needed though, as these are from different years, some from my 60+mm "era"). So, HOW TO TITLE such sets?My first idea was something like " Medieval Warfare" - general/main title and then subtitles for individual sets: - Town Militia or Sergeants ( Knechts)? -what title would be most descriptive for medieval artillery - Bombards? Not sure then if such sets would be interesting... As there will be mostly soldiers: standing, firing, some engaging, but no commanders, no drummers or trumpeters. Perhaps I could add some sort of banermen, but that's all.
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Post by Vermin King on May 17, 2016 11:58:39 GMT -9
I think that your ideas on titles is very descriptive and workable
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Post by wyvern on May 17, 2016 13:28:42 GMT -9
As with some of the previous discussions on set-names for these broad-themed figure groups, I'd suggest keeping it simple. "Sergeant", "Knecht", "bombard", "militia" are all terms that can have specific, or sometimes more general, meanings in different areas over different times during the European medieval period and later. So I'd opt for something like Medieval Soldiery instead, including Medieval Soldiery with Firearms and/or Medieval Soldiery with Artillery, where those titles might be more appropriate. The handguns in your image would be "firearms", while any larger-bore cannon-type items mounted on their own independent mobile carriages, or fixed mounts, and with a several-man crew, would fall in the "artillery" group, for example.
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Post by mesper on May 17, 2016 15:49:00 GMT -9
As with some of the previous discussions on set-names for these broad-themed figure groups, I'd suggest keeping it simple. "Sergeant", "Knecht", "bombard", "militia" are all terms that can have specific, or sometimes more general, meanings in different areas over different times during the European medieval period and later. So I'd opt for something like Medieval Soldiery instead, including Medieval Soldiery with Firearms and/or Medieval Soldiery with Artillery, where those titles might be more appropriate. The handguns in your image would be "firearms", while any larger-bore cannon-type items mounted on their own independent mobile carriages, or fixed mounts, and with a several-man crew, would fall in the "artillery" group, for example. Yes, keeping it simple is a key! But then I have to think and act as a publisher who have to "squeeze" or put as many info (cover-wise) and at the same time as short (which means BIG/HUGE letters which are at least readable at OBS covers preview) as possible! Then (in my/Permes) case I try to release sets in series (or "packages" ?). I'm trying to arrange/gather my sets into groups or into some more meaningful entities so I can add some more sets later (in other words I'd like to keep some series or categories "open") So that's I'm thinking in some sort of "structured categories": Major title /BOLD TITLE/ Level: Medieval Warfare or Medieval Soldiery #1/2/3 (so I'm already thinking of future sets here - so the users can estimate/expect some more releases!)
Subtitle (specific to the set content) Militia/ sergeants / Bombards etc...
So:
- Medieval Warfare/Soldiery #1 Militia
- Medieval Soldiery #2 Firearms
- Medieval Soldiery #3 Bombards
etc. Such "structural" approach gives me a sort of freedom, as I can add some sets/mini-sets or even single minis later on, months or even years later. Nah, I realise that this is not interesting for users, in fact that's part of kinda "publishers kitchen"... but then... some of today CWF users could become serious publishers somewhere in the future, so eventually it mite turn beeing useful:) BUT IN THE MEANTIMEKinda old story: Dwarven warrior, fierce one, known as TROLL SLAYER... And here we go... CAN I use " Troll Slayer" ? I don't want any situations with any IP owners/WH etc... So what could be the "safe" name / title for RPG "Hero Set like this one at preview? - Dwarven Beast Slayer
- Beast/Monster Hunter
- Troll Hunter
My bet: Beast/Troll Hunter... and what's your opinion? Anyway, I like these drafts and feel that these could turn into really solid minis (in fact at least a couple of minis, with various poses, accessories/weapons), still I'm holing up this one just because I'm not certain of some proprietary and naming/title issues) Anyway, that's one of "abandoned" but almost finalised projects I'd like to revive, but there is no need to rush...
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Post by tomwh on May 18, 2016 3:05:15 GMT -9
I like Medieval Warfare/Soldiery #1, Medieval Warfare/Soldiery with firearms #2, etc. which leads to Fantasy Warfare/Dwarven/Beast & Monster Hunter, etc.
While I would love to say that Troll Slayer creates IP issues but Troll Hunter doesn't, I can't because I am not a lawyer but I know lawyers that specialize in this area of law. I have learned over the years if lawyers specialize then common sense can't be applied to what the law should be and shouldn't.
Best practice is to go the Beast Hunter, Monster Hunter, or Beast & Monster Hunter route.
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Post by wyvern on May 18, 2016 12:04:25 GMT -9
A really quick online search using just the words "troll slayer" brought up two basic cast minis, one almost identical to your mohican-haired dwarf barbarian (including the red hair), the other a naked female dwarf with a huge axe. So I'd say, yes using this title with this specific image has the potential for problems. You might get round it by making "troll slayer" part of the character's title - such as "Thorin Oakenshield, the Troll Slayer" - but that would only really work if the mini was unique (so you'd have to make any variants of it be the same character, with different battle-gear, etc.). For a more generic set, tomwh's Beast or Monster Hunter would be the ones to go with, I'd say. You might also try something like Dwarf Barbarians instead, which takes away that specific foe element, if you were aiming for a larger set of different minis.
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