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Post by afet on Apr 21, 2009 10:42:29 GMT -9
Hello, all. I'm new to the One Monk forum, so let me know if this thread is better placed elsewhere. By way of introduction, I'm a D&D player who played 2E in my teen years in the early eighties. I recently began playing again with my own kids. We have been playing 2E rules in the 2E Forgotten Realms, but are currently making the switch to 4E rules, while remaining in the 2E Realms. I, like many others I imagine, am looking for cost effective, practical and good looking way to populate my 4E campaign. I was tipped off about One monk's products at the Fat Dragon Games forum ( fatdragongames.proboards.com/). I'm impressed. There are a number of gaps, though, where my miniature needs are concerned, so I thought I'd post a wish list. Monsters - Giants (stone, frost, two-headed, etc.)
- Wolves, werewolves and wererats
- Owlbear
- spider swarm & rat swarm
- giant spider
- treants
PCs (in each case I would like to see both males and females and several races) - clerics & druids
- Bards
- rogues
- wizards (not ancient and bearded)
- new races (demon-human; dragon-humanoid)
NPCs (frustratingly underrepresented by most miniature companies) - Inn/Tavern keeper, servers, stable boy
- Merchants and Caravan (carts & pack animals)
- Foot soldiers/militia (evil and good)
- Beggar
- Blacksmith
- Farmer and family
- Evil mages
Afet
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Post by stevelortz on Apr 21, 2009 10:58:50 GMT -9
Hiya, Afet, welcome!
Good list!
Have fun! Steve
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Post by kane on Apr 21, 2009 11:16:03 GMT -9
Afet, welcome aboard! Good to see you here. Monsters - Giants (stone, frost, two-headed, etc.)
- Wolves, werewolves and wererats
- Owlbear
- spider swarm & rat swarm
- giant spider
- treants
Well...theres a giant spider in the Monsters 1 (I think?) free set. The rest...seconded! PCs (in each case I would like to see both males and females and several races) - clerics & druids
- Bards
- rogues
- wizards (not ancient and bearded)
- new races (demon-human; dragon-humanoid)
Agreed. Their is a nice set of adventurers Jim recently released as well as some in his free sets, but more variety is always welcome. NPCs (frustratingly underrepresented by most miniature companies) - Inn/Tavern keeper, servers, stable boy
- Merchants and Caravan (carts & pack animals)
- Foot soldiers/militia (evil and good)
- Beggar
- Blacksmith
- Farmer and family
- Evil mages
Sad but true, these are way under-represented. Jim is working on them, though, as discussed here! Thanks, Afet. All good suggestions.
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Post by Floyd on Apr 21, 2009 11:23:51 GMT -9
Welcome aboard Afet. I too was an early DnD player...but I had the Redbook too. But ended during the Monsterous Compendium releases of 2nd Ed. And have recenlt purchased 4thEd to reaquaint myself to the game and my kids, and young friends and relatives. And OneMonk.com was the 1st place I thought off when it came to populating my dungeons and worlds... I would like to direct you to the Fantasy Adventures Forum. Check out the threads as they address most of what you have listed. And there are quite a few sketches there to whet thee appetite. ~Floyd
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Post by Aestelon on Apr 21, 2009 12:23:23 GMT -9
Yay, new blood! Hi, Afet!
Excellent wish list - and I'm pretty sure most of it's already on Jim's to do pile, as I recall; for some of the others (especially your PC suggestions, most of which I'm not aware of him having started), I'm tempted to have a doodle myself...
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Post by tugunmojo on Apr 21, 2009 13:02:04 GMT -9
DnD in the 80's, I remember those days, also being a teen then. And when you children what to play, it does pay to be thrifty--I know I have to be.
Paper terrain/minis have come a long way in the past couple of years and Jim (in my opinion) is the best in the mini side of the business. Fat Dragon does indeed have some good stuff, but I'd also recommend you check out World Works Games as well if you are into 3D paper terrain.
BTW, welcome aboard. If you have any questions about papercraft, be sure to ask us--one of us will be able to get you some answers.
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Post by Aestelon on Apr 21, 2009 13:27:08 GMT -9
I love this forum - it's one of the few I frequent that actually make me feel young. I was a teen in the 80s, too. For a week.
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Post by afet on Apr 21, 2009 14:30:59 GMT -9
Thank's for the welcome, and for pointing me in the right direction. As you say, it looks like most of this is already under way.
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Post by squirmydad on Apr 21, 2009 14:46:36 GMT -9
Most of the stuff you listed is covered by sets already done,or in progress. The Fantasy Adventure board has a requests section, but here is fine as well, I'll just copy/paste the items to that list after all you guys are done commenting, joke making and otherwise just causing trouble.
Welcome. I'm sure I will get everything you want on your list done before I die... I hope. JIM
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Post by Aestelon on Apr 21, 2009 15:57:02 GMT -9
Trouble... us? *flutters eyelashes innocently*
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Post by godofrandomness on Apr 21, 2009 16:17:35 GMT -9
First off, welcome! I dont think they have much to fill your holes, but there is also a a good amount of free minis available for a game called "Dungeon Plungin" over at www.oversoul-games.com. They are a little more "cartoony" in appearance, but I use them as much as I use onemonks.
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Post by emergencyoverride on Apr 21, 2009 17:18:35 GMT -9
Hey Afet! Welcome to the forum. Glad to see another earlier D&D player. I was thinking about my Vault of the Drow module the other day. Those were the days! Players would go down to the local goblin hole and kick the stuffing out of everyone there, then back to the store to buy new equipment and such. Oh and dont forget saving the Princess or other important person along the way. Hope you have a ton of fun here and don't worry, Jim will get to the npcs. He put out a ton of stuff in the last year. Actually, Its almost like its your birthday every week and there is a new group of minis to put together and enjoy. Welcome again! ;D
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Post by onemonkeybeau on Apr 24, 2009 15:00:44 GMT -9
Hey Afet!
Glad to see you here as well!
I love your builds on the Fat Dragon site and am looking forward to seeing them with some onemonk figs!
onemonkeybeau
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Post by rjstacey64 on Apr 26, 2009 9:36:21 GMT -9
Welcome Afet. For everyones info, you need to go over to the Fat Dragon site and download a free copy of the tower Afet made. It's pretty cool and it go's along with the other Fat Dragon sets.
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Post by afet on Apr 28, 2009 5:42:12 GMT -9
Thanks, guys.
I've started using the one monk minis for monsters and NPCs with the Fat Dragon sets. But the players all have their favorite painted metal minis and I have a lot of metal mini monsters and NPCs. So, for now, it's a mix of metal and paper minis.
I'm working on an encounter set now. I'm doing the old Forgotten Realms 2E adventure under the Twisted Tower in Shadowdale, but modified using 4E rules and scaled up for 4th level PCs.
Here's the situation: The party has finally penetrated the underground drow stronghold, where dwarves are being used as slaves, and also being transformed by fowl magic into an army of gibberlings that the drow plan to use to overrun and retake the Tower of Ashaba, from which they were driven centuries ago. The party has come upon a room (they can peek in) in which dwarven slaves are being used to forge weapons. To ensure the compliance of the dwarves, the drow have the dwarf women and children in a cage next to another cage containing a large Cave Troll, famous for their ravenous and indiscriminate appetite for living flesh. A drow guard is holding down a lever that, if released, will open a door between the two cages, allowing the Troll to enter and devour the women and children. The PCs have to think of a way to launch an attack that will not end in the death of many women and children.
Once again, the dearth of non-combatant NPC minis, in this case dwarf women and children, is annoying. Since they may become combatants, defending themselves from the Troll, I need to have them for game mechanics. Also, in terms of the pathos of the encounter, I want to have them represented by more than just colored tokens. I'm open to suggestions for what I could use.
I'll post some pictures when the set is done.
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Post by squirmydad on Apr 28, 2009 6:23:45 GMT -9
Very cool, I do plan a series of captives and slaves in various races, but who knows when I'll get time to do them.
Tom and I have discussed doing a NPC villagers promotion together with his dragonshire set and a few sets of my Fantasy Folk, if ever I do them as well.
It's a curse, I can do whatever I can think of, it's just getting the time to do it all. JIM
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Post by emergencyoverride on Apr 28, 2009 11:43:31 GMT -9
So true! I know, in your spare time you could design a time machine! It could work...
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Post by godofrandomness on Apr 28, 2009 16:10:54 GMT -9
Thanks, guys. I've started using the one monk minis for monsters and NPCs with the Fat Dragon sets. But the players all have their favorite painted metal minis and I have a lot of metal mini monsters and NPCs. So, for now, it's a mix of metal and paper minis. I'm working on an encounter set now. I'm doing the old Forgotten Realms 2E adventure under the Twisted Tower in Shadowdale, but modified using 4E rules and scaled up for 4th level PCs. Here's the situation: The party has finally penetrated the underground drow stronghold, where dwarves are being used as slaves, and also being transformed by fowl magic into an army of gibberlings that the drow plan to use to overrun and retake the Tower of Ashaba, from which they were driven centuries ago. The party has come upon a room (they can peek in) in which dwarven slaves are being used to forge weapons. To ensure the compliance of the dwarves, the drow have the dwarf women and children in a cage next to another cage containing a large Cave Troll, famous for their ravenous and indiscriminate appetite for living flesh. A drow guard is holding down a lever that, if released, will open a door between the two cages, allowing the Troll to enter and devour the women and children. The PCs have to think of a way to launch an attack that will not end in the death of many women and children. Once again, the dearth of non-combatant NPC minis, in this case dwarf women and children, is annoying. Since they may become combatants, defending themselves from the Troll, I need to have them for game mechanics. Also, in terms of the pathos of the encounter, I want to have them represented by more than just colored tokens. I'm open to suggestions for what I could use. I'll post some pictures when the set is done. www.oversoul-games.com/dungeonplungin/Dwarf_Heros.pdfTHere are some Dwarf figs on the last page. I know they aren't civilians, but at least they are dwarves.
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Post by afet on Apr 28, 2009 17:09:33 GMT -9
Here's the set. The dungeon is made with the new E-Z Dungeon Deluxe set by Fat Dragon. The prison doors are my adaptation. The Troll and the Dwarf with the red hat are Jim's. The other figures are Bhoritz's.
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Post by abaddonwormwood on Apr 28, 2009 17:32:55 GMT -9
Man that is a really neat layout. I am the first to say I am not a Fat Dragon texture supporter but this latest set of dungeon releases are what the Cardstock industry has needed.
Lord Abaddon of Wormwood
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Post by afet on Apr 28, 2009 18:11:23 GMT -9
Man that is a really neat layout. I am the first to say I am not a Fat Dragon texture supporter but this latest set of dungeon releases are what the Cardstock industry has needed. Lord Abaddon of Wormwood The great thing is that this set only took me a couple minutes to lay out. The new EZ Dungeon Deluxe set is beautifully modular. Once you've got the individual pieces of various kinds made up, you can just pop things together as you go. I like to lay out separate rooms in advance, put them in a box, and then pull them out and add them on as we play. The floor/wall pieces, mounted on foam core, are held together with toothpicks, so that you can grab a whole room in one hand. My players love the sets.
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Post by squirmydad on Apr 28, 2009 19:39:32 GMT -9
Very nice, the layout and texturing look good. I thought the deluxe just had more parts, I should pick this up, and of coarse rip out the new textures for more bases.
It's also neat to see a variety of paper figures mixed together, I do think they mix well. JIM
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Post by onemonkeybeau on Apr 28, 2009 22:40:15 GMT -9
I agree, they look very nice side by side.
onemonkeybeau
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Post by kane on Apr 29, 2009 6:47:21 GMT -9
That looks excellent, Afet! Forgot about those 1" cube-type sections. Will have to remember to make some of those for visual interest.
As per the texture quality, its actually better in person than it is in most of the photos. WWG definitely has an edge, but FDG suffers more from a lack of photography skills than texturing talent. That said, WWG builds are generally more streamlined but FDG tend towards more modularity. Each company definitely has plusses and minuses.
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Post by Floyd on Apr 29, 2009 7:03:09 GMT -9
Oh that is real nice!
Thanks for posting the mash up of figure sets.
I have that new EZDungeons Deluxe but I have not yet attempted to build it. I like the new Iron Doos... good one mate!
~F
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Post by luckyjoe on Apr 29, 2009 8:08:51 GMT -9
That came out very nice. Your prison door adaptation is especially well done. Does the hinged side have a tab that fits into a slot on the wall?
Luckyjoe
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Post by afet on Apr 29, 2009 8:42:33 GMT -9
That came out very nice. Your prison door adaptation is especially well done. Does the hinged side have a tab that fits into a slot on the wall? Luckyjoe Yes, I used the hinge tab from the doors in the EZD Deluxe set. The handle is from the steel doors in that same set, and the portcullis from the FDG Borderland Keep. Here's a link to the file: fatdragongames.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=gallery&action=display&thread=625
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Post by afet on Apr 29, 2009 9:29:00 GMT -9
That looks excellent, Afet! Forgot about those 1" cube-type sections. Will have to remember to make some of those for visual interest. As per the texture quality, its actually better in person than it is in most of the photos. WWG definitely has an edge, but FDG suffers more from a lack of photography skills than texturing talent. That said, WWG builds are generally more streamlined but FDG tend towards more modularity. Each company definitely has plusses and minuses. I agree. The WWG 2.5D approach is easier to build than the FDG full 3D walls, but I love the 3D look and I enjoy the modeling, so the ease of the build is not a draw for me. I also agree that WWG have fantastic textures; although FDG has come a long way in that department. The modularity is probably the thing I like most about the FDG products, and the EZD Deluxe set has refined this even further. I find all the negative talk over at the WWG forum about FDG being derivative rather silly and, frankly, paranoid. Two companies are attempting to produce realistic paper models of medieval fantasy settings for use in rpgs. Of course there are going to be similarities. But saying that FDG is "ripping off" WWG is like saying that the Pathfinder setting is just a cheap knock-off of D&D. It's not a perfect analogy, but the double point is that they are similar but different products that compete for a similar but different buyer; and that cross pollinating, intentional or not, is inevitable and healthy. I think both products are improved by the competition for market share. As you say, Kane, the products of both companies have pros and cons.
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Post by luckyjoe on Apr 29, 2009 9:38:13 GMT -9
Thanks for the link. It's been a little while since I've visited the FD site and I was pleased to see when I went to check out the link that the Dragonshire Interiors set is out. Been waiting for that. Luckyjoe
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Post by Aestelon on Apr 29, 2009 9:38:48 GMT -9
As you say, Kane, the products of both companies have pros and cons. Many of which, of course, are largely subjective. You like Stilton, I like Cheddar - who's right?
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