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Post by coreyhaim8mydog on Jul 30, 2017 16:10:35 GMT -9
Looking for Victorian buildings or, even better, 19th Century New York.
Thus far, I've found B'hoys Towne, Old Towne, and am using some David Graffam stuff.
Other recommendations?
Thanks!
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Post by Vermin King on Jul 30, 2017 16:35:23 GMT -9
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Post by coreyhaim8mydog on Jul 30, 2017 17:27:48 GMT -9
Thanks for the links! Where can I find your stuff? I think I came across one building of yours.... |
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Post by Vermin King on Jul 30, 2017 17:42:55 GMT -9
Ashbrooke-Stein is a work in progress for Papercuts 2017. The Annheuser Busch Brew House was a shelved project that I hoped to get done by Christmas this year. NY Life Building didn't get far, but I collected images from the KC building and the second one which is now a bank building in Omaha. You can see images of the buildings at duckduckgo.com/?q=new+york+life+building+kansas+city&atb=v49-4__&iax=1&ia=images. My idea was to make it a collection of stackable two-story units with roof units that will slip over these units. On both the Brew House and NYL buildings, I wanted to have a usable building for rpg, that could be set up to be a reasonable facsimile of the actual buildings. A touch on the side of 'over-reaching', but I think they are worthy goals. |
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Post by coreyhaim8mydog on Jul 30, 2017 17:47:27 GMT -9
Ashbrooke-Stein is a work in progress for Papercuts 2017. The Annheuser Busch Brew House was a shelved project that I hoped to get done by Christmas this year. NY Life Building didn't get far, but I collected images from the KC building and the second one which is now a bank building in Omaha. You can see images of the buildings at duckduckgo.com/?q=new+york+life+building+kansas+city&atb=v49-4__&iax=1&ia=images. My idea was to make it a collection of stackable two-story units with roof units that will slip over these units. On both the Brew House and NYL buildings, I wanted to have a usable building for rpg, that could be set up to be a reasonable facsimile of the actual buildings. A touch on the side of 'over-reaching', but I think they are worthy goals. I'd certainly like to see it, if you do go for it. |
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Post by coreyhaim8mydog on Jul 30, 2017 17:49:11 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Jul 30, 2017 17:55:18 GMT -9
When I finish Ashbrooke-Stein, cardboard-warriors.proboards.com/thread/8366/steampunkish-idea, I plan on going back to do the Royal Mail Coach and do a less-complicated version and then a version with the pivoting front axle. Then a couple of non-Ashbrooke versions of the Steam Coach. By that point (knowing me) I plan to attack the Brew House again for the Christmas Hoard. Two-versions, the Brew House and www.brewerylights.com/And sometime in there, I need to get back to the Marshall's House and old log courthouse in Independence, Missouri. I'm really ticked off at the City of Independence, though. They are the start of the California, Oregon and Santa Fe trails. The first railway west of the Mississippi went from the Wayne City Landing, along River Road to downtown Independence. The wagon trains formed along Kentucky Avenue to head west, between the old log courthouse and the newer courthouse that sat on the current square. The Weston Wagon Shop (1840) that supplied between a quarter and a third of the wagons in those trains also sat on Kentucky. About 20 years ago, the city leveled the wagon shop to make room for an expanded farmer's market, which has since been moved. I am searching diligently for photos of the shop to make a reasonable model. One of the oldest tavern/inns in Missouri was the victim of an accidental fire to make room for a parking lot for the movie theater on the square. Morons |
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Post by coreyhaim8mydog on Jul 30, 2017 18:09:54 GMT -9
When I finish Ashbrooke-Stein, cardboard-warriors.proboards.com/thread/8366/steampunkish-idea, I plan on going back to do the Royal Mail Coach and do a less-complicated version and then a version with the pivoting front axle. Then a couple of non-Ashbrooke versions of the Steam Coach. By that point (knowing me) I plan to attack the Brew House again for the Christmas Hoard. Two-versions, the Brew House and www.brewerylights.com/And sometime in there, I need to get back to the Marshall's House and old log courthouse in Independence, Missouri. I'm really ticked off at the City of Independence, though. They are the start of the California, Oregon and Santa Fe trails. The first railway west of the Mississippi went from the Wayne City Landing, along River Road to downtown Independence. The wagon trains formed along Kentucky Avenue to head west, between the old log courthouse and the newer courthouse that sat on the current square. The Weston Wagon Shop (1840) that supplied between a quarter and a third of the wagons in those trains also sat on Kentucky. About 20 years ago, the city leveled the wagon shop to make room for an expanded farmer's market, which has since been moved. I am searching diligently for photos of the shop to make a reasonable model. One of the oldest tavern/inns in Missouri was the victim of an accidental fire to make room for a parking lot for the movie theater on the square. Morons Yeah, that is ridiculous. |
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Post by Vermin King on Jul 30, 2017 18:22:46 GMT -9
I doubt Independence is that much worse than most places. Michigan just used eminent domain to obtain the Signor Homestead from the early 1800s. Leveling it to expand a highway interchange. I should do a show on Endangered History. Last year the last pre-Civil War German immigrant barn, in West Central Missouri was leveled to enlarge a corn field. Natural disaster took out one of the old Kansas City breweries this year. History is vanishing
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Post by coreyhaim8mydog on Jul 31, 2017 5:55:24 GMT -9
I doubt Independence is that much worse than most places. Michigan just used eminent domain to obtain the Signor Homestead from the early 1800s. Leveling it to expand a highway interchange. I should do a show on Endangered History. Last year the last pre-Civil War German immigrant barn, in West Central Missouri was leveled to enlarge a corn field. Natural disaster took out one of the old Kansas City breweries this year. History is vanishing Are you a fan of American Pickers? |
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Post by Vermin King on Jul 31, 2017 6:04:46 GMT -9
Not especially. I burned myself out on Antiques Roadshow, and really haven't gotten that interested in those other shows
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Post by nullpointer on Jul 31, 2017 6:42:53 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Jul 31, 2017 7:08:33 GMT -9
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Post by coreyhaim8mydog on Aug 3, 2017 9:10:15 GMT -9
Thanks! Some fellow is working on Gangs of New York modular buildings and minis, but he didn't expect it'd move before next year.
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 3, 2017 10:08:19 GMT -9
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Post by coreyhaim8mydog on Aug 4, 2017 5:29:50 GMT -9
Thanks, VK.
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 8, 2017 8:24:14 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 8, 2017 15:07:49 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 1, 2017 11:47:56 GMT -9
Are you still needing buildings? I've been compiling images of 1880's buildings, not all from New York EDIT -- I keep getting drawn back to this photo of Water Street in Chicago  And we think we have traffic jams today. I've seen similar photos from many big cities, and even little old Independence, Missouri. I guess one would have to learn patience quickly |
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 2, 2017 18:49:59 GMT -9
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Post by coreyhaim8mydog on Sept 11, 2017 7:29:56 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 11, 2017 8:23:05 GMT -9
That big building of Tommygun's looks like it would fit the bill, if it was more Victorian. I might have to pick that project up again. Store fronts on street level?
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 12, 2017 19:11:38 GMT -9
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Post by grendelsmother64 on Sept 13, 2017 11:27:56 GMT -9
I found this page a few years ago: Build Your Own Historic Illinois BuildingsMostly colonial era buildings, but if you scroll down to the bottom there's a pretty good streetscape that could pass for just about any 1800s/turn of the century town/city. I think it's HO scale, but that can always be jiggered by a creative fellow...       GM64 edit: I just realized someone already linked to this page. Good models anyway... |
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 13, 2017 12:12:57 GMT -9
Those are supposed to be 1/87, but to my eye they seem closer to 1/76, at least some of them. I wonder if I could use them as a basis for re-skinning Tommygun's modular Big Building. Hmmm
I don't know exactly what Chris envisions, but having them 3 or 4 floors high makes me think more of a tenement building than 2 floors, though in the shot of the Irish ghetto, most of those are two-story
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Post by grendelsmother64 on Sept 13, 2017 14:37:10 GMT -9
This would be a good project. A few different brick wall patterns, a dozen different windows, some architectural bits for roof corner and entry florishes... A few different storefronts and signage. A couple of fire escape options. All mix and match...that can be easily shopped around, printed, built alone or applied to stiffer boxes to build a streetscape. There's lots of late victorian era streetscapes around where I live. Maybe a photo expedition is in order.... Hmmmmmmmm.... GM64 |
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 13, 2017 15:35:31 GMT -9
2.5" to 3" per floor, maybe more for street level. I think one almost has to go modular. I still like the thin buildings, also. For a realistic street, the floors don't line up. In those architectural drawings, even big buildings would have a wide section in the middle and two thinner ones on either side, or thin with wider on either side. I think they were intentionally breaking up lines. You could fit four small-height floors on a page. Set that on a taller single-floor box as the ground floor, and I think it would work. And it would work in Victorian, pulp and modern settings. This could be a very nice project
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Post by grendelsmother64 on Sept 13, 2017 16:57:23 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 13, 2017 17:07:34 GMT -9
You have definitely hit the right target. I don't know exactly how you picture it, but I was thinking storefronts on either side of the entry to the upstairs. Although I'm not certain that some of these might not have had back alley entrances. Some of these were probably over warehouses and shipping offices, too
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Post by grendelsmother64 on Sept 14, 2017 9:11:57 GMT -9
You have definitely hit the right target. I don't know exactly how you picture it, but I was thinking storefronts on either side of the entry to the upstairs. Although I'm not certain that some of these might not have had back alley entrances. Some of these were probably over warehouses and shipping offices, too Entrances either to the side or between 2 shops. Maybe one or two main floors like one of the photos you posted...half storey steps up to the shop with semi-basements to either side. This would definitely break up the rows of windows along the street front. Also the odd warehouse main-floor. Like these:   Yes... this definitely has potential... GM64 |
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