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Post by Vermin King on Mar 17, 2018 5:28:06 GMT -9
The problem with both dogs is that the far leg in the front view is well in front of the near leg. There will be much more belly hair showing, which doesn't have a lot of texture. I'm still trying to mod these with original textures. The backs of them are also curved somewhat. The fronts are skewed towards the viewer, but the tail end is more perpendicular to the viewer, so the far sides will be showing much more side. I'll work it out. Was working on the Goshoguruma last night. I've about given up on doing the one I showed with the flared roof edges. Almost all the woodblock prints show some variation of this, but I'm not getting the geometry right in my head to do it. I'm thinking of doing something more like this now  Not with the third wheel, though I have noticed a theme, though. In the one I posted above, it looked like this was one that had guys pulling it, but they are more like 'ox-helpers'   Generally in these prints, they like to show oxen at odd views, so to do an ox figure, it looks like I am either going with one from 1923 or from the 1930's. Old, but not as old as I want |
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Post by mesper on Mar 17, 2018 10:28:18 GMT -9
I think this is a great idea! Could the demon be one piece and the bullrushes separate? Maybe on a watery base? I also think it would be fun to make each arm and head separate pieces and large so the encounter would be fighting a mostly submerged giant. OK, so here is... not a deal but kinda challenge! I did everything (hope so) as required, and even more - so now what we have is MOD-KIT - every user can assemble his own version of River Demon! Plus there is: - already assembled sample figurine (first page) - wolf (or wherewolf?) version of demon (last page) Components of MOD-KIT are especially so big, so you can rescale, shrink all of them or just some parts (my sample figurine is 50% scaled down). Pages were PNG without background in order for better quality and ease of use/cut components in Photoshop or Gimp - but... for some reason I these files are not displaying here at all?!?! So I've changed file format to JPG (300dpi, max quality). BUT... these components are black and white only, so must be coloured and textured, then some additional special effects might be needed to add some final touch. Then at last stage coloured figurine should be assembled and then only added to the CWF hoard. I'd like to encourage everyone to play with this MOD-KIT and to experiment - you can of course use these components with your own elements or do some modding - no restrictions here:) Well, I'm wonder who, and how many (if any?) will try? Anyway, have fun!!!       Enjoy! Mesper  ... |
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Post by mesper on Mar 17, 2018 17:30:46 GMT -9
Just a wuick mock-up with use of River Demon MOD-KIT parts: Werewolf Wizard A-B side   |
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Post by cowboyleland on Mar 17, 2018 20:39:20 GMT -9
Very cool! I actually started modding the fist teaser you posted. These parts will help me finish and I will share what I come up with.
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 19, 2018 17:48:01 GMT -9
 Not even close to done, but I thought I would post where I am at on this. I took the wheels from tatebanko entitled alternately 'habakis' or 'hakabis' on the net. Some sort of parade float. It also supplied the undercarriage parts. I picture building the box, then put the overhanging roof (not done yet) over the top. The ends need to be inset by the width of that little lattice panel. Still need to work out the upturned curve of the roof ends. I think I have an idea on that, hopefully a better idea than the last three |
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 20, 2018 10:12:31 GMT -9
I realized I never posted the Foo Dogs. I also worked on the cart more last night and at lunch.   There is actually an ox yoke on the end of the trees I took off the woodprint, so I figured I'd use it. The axle brackets and trees will need to be laminated to about a thickness of four layers of card or sandwich in some tablet backing between the parts. There should even be room for the ox at the bottom of the page |
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Post by mproteau (Paper Realms) on Mar 20, 2018 10:28:26 GMT -9
Are you keeping the side-by-side layout of the figures? Cutfiles will have to take the front and back apart into two separate pieces rather than have a single piece that folds in half. It's far from the end of the world; they'll still assemble ok, even if it's a little more fiddly.
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 20, 2018 11:19:38 GMT -9
Well, that's why I was asking questions on that earlier. Not having or using a cutter, I didn't know what kind of issues that would raise. Easy enough to covert over, but I'll still print them out this way for the promo shot, since it is a whole lot easier to flat-base with them this way
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Post by mproteau (Paper Realms) on Mar 20, 2018 11:39:26 GMT -9
Sorry - I saw the post, but I saw follow-up comments that sounded like you were going to change the figures. I didn't give it all that much thought; My mother went into the hospital right around that time, and I have been exhausted shuttling my dad in and out of boston, enjoying the emotional roller coaster. She ended up having an emergency hip replacement, and there will be a lot of fall-out from that, but I am getting back into paper, having been away for more than a week. MUCH more relaxing...
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 20, 2018 12:35:30 GMT -9
Family first, sir. And take care of yourself. Can't have the caregiver giving out
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 21, 2018 6:52:49 GMT -9
 Works out to having room for three shorter figures, just like the other format. |
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Post by kgstanley81 on Mar 21, 2018 13:51:33 GMT -9
Family first, plus we're practically neighbors, I'm on the other side of Worcester (east), wife helps bring someone into Boston once/twice a month.
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 21, 2018 17:55:11 GMT -9
I had planned on doing a test build on the goshoguruma tonight, but I injured myself today (never try to catch a saw that is falling).  I'm a bit undecided on doing a harness on the ox, half show a harness, half don't. And a third show a blanket on its back I might add a harness on the goshoguruma ox, but the one on the figure sheet won't. Also adding the Kirin to complete the page  |
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 22, 2018 12:42:02 GMT -9
Wrapped up work for the day, and got a bit more done on the Kirin. Went back through the figures and there were a bunch of artifacts again. I think that just opening in Gimp creates an opportunity for artifacts to get introduced. So, I am considering it done. No more opening with Gimp. On the Goshoguruma, I have space at the bottom, although it isn't Hoard formatted, yet, but I think I am going to add an attendant figure before I print out. On one of the prints, there is one guy with his back to the viewer at about a 45 degree angle to the yoke tree. The next guy back is looking towards the viewer, also at 45 degrees. I think I can combine the two and have a decent looking guy to walk beside the ox pulling the cart. We'll see The Kirin and Ox have mirrored backs, but I just want this set done at this point  |
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 23, 2018 10:23:14 GMT -9
On the goshoguruma, I glued the fold-over parts last night and started putting it together at lunch today. The under-roof was too short by half a tab, so I fixed that. On the yoke trees, the tab was a pain and not helpful, so those two tabs are now gone. On all of these, the wheel hubs stick way out from the wheels, so I'm opting for a toothpick axle. Just cut it off where it starts to taper at the ends and it is the right length. Used a Sharpie to blacken it. I have to build the thing before I can check to see if the flared roof ends will work. I'll find out tonight. I guess I can share what I have thus far  And yes, I know that it looks like the Attendant has his shoes on backwards, but look at the images I posted. They all have heel extensions for some reason. Maybe the emperor just wants to see them look funny. I don't have a clue |
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 23, 2018 10:40:11 GMT -9
River Demon - first attempt Demon is hidden in coastal reeds and bulrush, waiting for careless wanderers! A little different figurine than typical - this mini will not have a full black border, and the B-side will be quite simple So it's rather kinda props or element of scenery than playable figurine?  Dunno if such mini will be suitable? Worth working on this further?  And oh... bulrush, water textures and effects are temporary, just for preview here. Will you be finishing this guy out as a terrain piece? I'm starting to get the final files in order, and this one is so close to being ready |
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Post by mesper on Mar 23, 2018 13:43:34 GMT -9
Will you be finishing this guy out as a terrain piece? Err... not really - well after your post I thought it would be a cool idea to make a simple MOD-KIT so that everyone could build or assemble their own figurine (or scenery element) - kinda fun and/or "challenge" for Cardboard Warriors Forum users, who like twinking, modding etc. But then it looks like there aren't many willing people, don't know - perhaps community either don't want to get involved or just prefer finished products (or simply my version/vision for this hoard just doesn't meet or not correspond to expectations?)  |
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 23, 2018 13:58:52 GMT -9
Many of the folks do prefer finished products. Many wait until the last minute to submit things. I hoped that you would have the original, and we can add any mods that come in.
It was a great idea
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 23, 2018 15:28:20 GMT -9
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Mar 23, 2018 21:10:14 GMT -9
Will you be finishing this guy out as a terrain piece? Err... not really - well after your post I thought it would be a cool idea to make a simple MOD-KIT so that everyone could build or assemble their own figurine (or scenery element) - kinda fun and/or "challenge" for Cardboard Warriors Forum users, who like twinking, modding etc. But then it looks like there aren't many willing people, don't know - perhaps community either don't want to get involved or just prefer finished products (or simply my version/vision for this hoard just doesn't meet or not correspond to expectations?) I think this is an amzing thing, and if life were different this month I would have two versions done already. Alas, I'm not feeling the papercraft mojo right now. |
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 24, 2018 4:34:30 GMT -9
And the main roof requires a redesign. Having the cart made, and having a main roof part cut and partially glued, though, makes it rather obvious what needs to happen with it. My woodblock print figures were done at 28mm, so they have been bumped up to be between 30 and 32 mm now. I think many players are going with the larger scales, and I don't want these to look out of place. Dangit! PostImage is down right now. Razzum, frazzum. I'll post the new file later today  |
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Post by marzman on Mar 24, 2018 7:11:28 GMT -9
Nice work as always!
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 24, 2018 9:45:57 GMT -9
While working on the new roof, I enhanced the pattern on the roof and swapped out the lattice patterns all around. This version of the roof should either work or at least be very close.  |
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Post by cowboyleland on Mar 25, 2018 6:13:07 GMT -9
I have been away for a few days. I still plan to offer a mod of mesper's demon. Tonight or maybe tomorrow. |
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 25, 2018 14:04:39 GMT -9
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Post by cowboyleland on Mar 25, 2018 16:57:57 GMT -9
Here is one of my river demon modds. I am working on a bigger (multi part) one.  |
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 26, 2018 4:46:35 GMT -9
Hey, I'm not the only one to use these old images ...  I think my Amaterasu figure looks better than theirs, though |
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 27, 2018 14:03:53 GMT -9
  Okay, the background stuff isn't part of the Hoard, but it is shaping up nicely |
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 29, 2018 6:10:29 GMT -9
Nearing the end folks
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Post by cowboyleland on Mar 29, 2018 18:00:02 GMT -9
Here is the second (and the last for me) of the demons:  |
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