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Post by Antohammer on Oct 31, 2018 2:47:12 GMT -9
Hi guys yesterday i completed the first set of my new desert undead kingdom serie!!!! here s the link of the first relase www.wargamevault.com/product/257539/fantasy-desert-kingdom-undead-grave-guardsthis s a set of elite infantry with shield and spear... there s even a command unit with banner and drummer next will be the unarmoured light infantry with spears and shields hope you like it this s an assembled test unit... the whole assembled set is going to be photographed this weekend ... the colors are a bit dark becouse i used the laser printer of the work office eh eh eh :3
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Post by wyvern on Oct 31, 2018 3:44:19 GMT -9
OK, just downloaded these, and a few immediate thoughts.
* You need to add a clear fold line between the backs and fronts to ensure the two sides will line-up properly once folded and glued.
* I still think you need to add a thicker black outline for those cutting the minis by-hand.
* Personally, I'd have liked a full page of your desert ground texture in the PDF as well, because that makes it easier to create bases of the sizes I'd need, or indeed for anyone else wanting to set these up as wargame units with multi-figure bases, as a diorama piece, or to allow the creation of movement trays for the individually-based minis to stand in, again when wargaming.
* You might want to add a front page to the PDF - like the image used on your WV product page, as you linked-to already.
* It may be worth adding some text notes in the PDF on how to make these up into minis and base them for those coming to papercrafting for the first time.
Don't get me wrong; I like these minis - I just paid cash for them after all! - but with a few changes and additions, this could become an outstanding range in time (and best to get the standards right now than have to change everything later!).
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Post by Antohammer on Oct 31, 2018 4:19:47 GMT -9
thankyou a lot brother i will update them as fast as i can !!!! thankyou for the suggestions .... you wont regret spending money OK, just downloaded these, and a few immediate thoughts. * You need to add a clear fold line between the backs and fronts to ensure the two sides will line-up properly once folded and glued. * I still think you need to add a thicker black outline for those cutting the minis by-hand. * Personally, I'd have liked a full page of your desert ground texture in the PDF as well, because that makes it easier to create bases of the sizes I'd need, or indeed for anyone else wanting to set these up as wargame units with multi-figure bases, as a diorama piece, or to allow the creation of movement trays for the individually-based minis to stand in, again when wargaming. * You might want to add a front page to the PDF - like the image used on your WV product page, as you linked-to already. * It may be worth adding some text notes in the PDF on how to make these up into minis and base them for those coming to papercrafting for the first time. Don't get me wrong; I like these minis - I just paid cash for them after all! - but with a few changes and additions, this could become an outstanding range in time (and best to get the standards right now than have to change everything later!)
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Post by squirmydad on Oct 31, 2018 9:11:07 GMT -9
Perhaps something like this document to illustrate construction of your bases and miniatures. Attachments:Tabbed-Instruction.pdf (273.33 KB)
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Post by Antohammer on Oct 31, 2018 11:38:01 GMT -9
squirmydad here s the desert base and the construction guide hope you guys like it i m now making the division line and the bigger black borders.... i hope to complete them for tomorrow when i complete them i will update the pdf on the wargamesvault page.... thankyou again wyvern bye 2 attached files Attachments:
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Post by Antohammer on Oct 31, 2018 11:51:33 GMT -9
wyvern .... i dont know ... i dont like the result... do you? o.o
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Post by cowboyleland on Nov 1, 2018 4:53:47 GMT -9
Antohammer, these will be much easier to build and cut out. The page may look a bit busy but the page is not the product, the assembled figures are, and they will look great! I am looking forward to what else you do on this theme. BTW I was serious about my ink saving "discovery". You could just arrange the figures above and below each other with a one or two pixel space between the tabs and you get a fold "line" without adding anything.
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Post by wyvern on Nov 1, 2018 9:53:46 GMT -9
Antohammer: Yes that mini with the black surround will be much easier to cut by hand, as cowboyleland already said. The desert sand texture looks really good too, especially the enlarged sheet. I really love the style of these Egyptian skeletons, and hope we'll be seeing more in a similar vein - some with axes, the khopesh-style sword, some archers, maybe even some chariots. And then we'll need a pharaoh mummy commander, maybe, and... Once you start something like this, we all suddenly discover we have a desperate need for more, and different, minis to add to what you've already designed, of course
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Post by Antohammer on Nov 1, 2018 12:26:30 GMT -9
well guys a lot is work in progress right now... in the dark dungeon of the lonely wargamer there s a wip for a charriot and even a pharaon... there s a skeletal dragon too but first stop the press... i followed the wyvern suggestions and made some updates to the file... run to wargamesvault and download it again cowboyleland you r right a top down minia is a better idea... dammit Vermin King is right... T.T squirmydad do you like the instructions? aniway thankyou all
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Post by squirmydad on Nov 1, 2018 16:54:39 GMT -9
Looking good.
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Post by Antohammer on Nov 3, 2018 6:48:09 GMT -9
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Post by cowboyleland on Nov 4, 2018 16:33:07 GMT -9
I would suggest archers and then kopesh wielders.
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Post by Antohammer on Nov 14, 2018 6:24:29 GMT -9
I would suggest archers and then kopesh wielders. work in progress there are javelin and slingers too on the wip list
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Post by Antohammer on Nov 15, 2018 23:14:38 GMT -9
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Post by Antohammer on Nov 15, 2018 23:20:26 GMT -9
i forgot... i m working on a egypitina ship/barge fot the undead army... it will be relased after the missile troops ... becouse they will be the main unit for the navy .... i should add a catapult too... :/ this only a concept ;D i was thinking that a figurehead should be something like anubis or another egyptian deity suggestions? ^^
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Post by wyvern on Nov 16, 2018 2:34:39 GMT -9
Historical ancient Egyptian ship figureheads beyond the kind of floral design you've shown in your concept model seem to have been uncommon, as far as the pictorial evidence suggests. Most of those there were look to have been animal heads or more abstracted/stylized designs - like their hieroglyphs, for instance. So an Anubis-head might be appropriate here, in a fantasy context and especially relating to the undead. Like the new stone wall texture and pillars in the latest DTRPG/WV released set (though also appreciating the "wall" has been used for extra base pieces here as well). Might be useful to have a longer piece of wall texture with some pylon-style gateway pillars at a future stage? And of course, some walls decorated with suitable Egyptian-style carvings and/or paintings
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Post by Antohammer on Nov 16, 2018 4:10:30 GMT -9
Historical ancient Egyptian ship figureheads beyond the kind of floral design you've shown in your concept model seem to have been uncommon, as far as the pictorial evidence suggests. Most of those there were look to have been animal heads or more abstracted/stylized designs - like their hieroglyphs, for instance. So an Anubis-head might be appropriate here, in a fantasy context and especially relating to the undead. Like the new stone wall texture and pillars in the latest DTRPG/WV released set (though also appreciating the "wall" has been used for extra base pieces here as well). Might be useful to have a longer piece of wall texture with some pylon-style gateway pillars at a future stage? And of course, some walls decorated with suitable Egyptian-style carvings and/or paintings Thankyou again wyvern it s very interesting what you say about the ships... i spent the night yersterday looking for examples but i did not foumd anything usefull.... for sure an anubi shiphead will be used.... I was thinking to draw a temple what do you think ? I was thinking to make a big one and then going to a professional printer to print it whit a plotter in a3 paper or bigger And maybe you have more experience than me... if I want to make print the minnia what kind of paper should i ask ? A lucid one? Becouse actually I use my family laser office printer and dont like the result... :/
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Post by Vermin King on Nov 16, 2018 4:36:14 GMT -9
To locate images on their ships, boats and barges, you might have to look for 'reconstructions'.
I'm a sucker for History programs, and 'replica' boats are seen in them. On Smithsonian Channel, there was an episode on the sphinx that had a reconstruction of a boat used by the workmen. An episode dealing with Cleopatra had some of her warships. Under something like Ancient Marvels, they had her super ship, computer model.
Your search for info might pick up some of those images with 'replica' and 'reconstruction' thrown into your search
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Post by Antohammer on Nov 16, 2018 8:55:01 GMT -9
To locate images on their ships, boats and barges, you might have to look for 'reconstructions'. I'm a sucker for History programs, and 'replica' boats are seen in them. On Smithsonian Channel, there was an episode on the sphinx that had a reconstruction of a boat used by the workmen. An episode dealing with Cleopatra had some of her warships. Under something like Ancient Marvels, they had her super ship, computer model. Your search for info might pick up some of those images with 'replica' and 'reconstruction' thrown into your search i love you that s a great suggestion!!!!!!
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Post by wyvern on Nov 17, 2018 2:44:46 GMT -9
I'm not sure about the reliability of some of the ancient ship reconstructions overall, as although they can be helpful as a guide to the 3D shapes and probable construction methods (often difficult to tell from ancient artwork examples alone), sometimes the detail doesn't seem to match as well as it should. For instance, I've found reconstruction images that show ancient Egyptian ship figureheads facing outwards - like more modern figureheads usually do - whereas the ancient artwork suggests these were usually constructed facing inwards, towards the ship, instead.
When printing minis, the general consensus from previous CWF discussions is it's always best to use photo-quality papers and cards, and preferably papers with a matt surface. For most minis and card models, I use a matt 210 or 220 gsm weight card, for instance, as this seems to give the best results using my home inkjet printer. You may need to experiment with different papers and weights to find the better materials for your own printer, however. It's noticeable that not all photo-quality "white" papers have the same "whitneness", and that's something which can affect the final print quality, for example.
A 3D temple model would be interesting. There are some already available on the OBS sites, but there's always room for different styles and approaches.
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Post by Antohammer on Nov 17, 2018 9:08:55 GMT -9
wyvern ... mmm i understand the first point.... if thats a problem we can make the ship figurehead detached so one can glue it as he thinks better... the second point... you use a inkjet... what do you think... i was going to buy a led printer at the end of this month... do you think s better to change and buy an inkjet? third point.... if there are a lot around i will postpone it... better to complete first the hittite ;D ps the archer are on the way.... i will post one wip i m using two primary pose... one standing and another one sided with the bow firing and loading suggestions guys??? ^^
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Post by Vermin King on Nov 17, 2018 9:32:40 GMT -9
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Post by Antohammer on Nov 18, 2018 6:33:12 GMT -9
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Post by wyvern on Nov 18, 2018 11:21:01 GMT -9
The interchangeable ship's figurehead is a good idea. That way you may have only one ship design, but any number of figureheads to give variety to the fleet (and I guess different sails to match, perhaps).
Choice of printer is a very personal thing, because it really depends what you need it to do and what your budget is (not just for the machine, but for the running costs of ink or toner supplies too). My inkjet is about seven years old now, so it's been quite some years since I looked closely at the specifications for printers. Thus I don't think I can provide any useful advice on this subject.
Just seen the archers preview on DTRPG, which looks good!
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Post by Antohammer on Nov 19, 2018 8:43:16 GMT -9
holy sh... em .... wonderfull!!!! especially the set to make a temple!!!!!!! i want to make something similar after the ships!!!!!
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Post by wyvern on Nov 19, 2018 10:05:08 GMT -9
There are some other interesting free model Egyptian walls and building options via the links in this CWF topic from May 2013. Not all the images there show now, but the links do all still work.
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Post by Antohammer on Nov 21, 2018 7:29:59 GMT -9
wyvern very nice stuff!!!! i have to make a new battleground
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Post by Antohammer on Nov 22, 2018 13:12:42 GMT -9
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