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Post by Vermin King on Jan 19, 2019 10:19:02 GMT -9
They scare me a bit. By taking the stairs of one model, and adjusting the railings of another to match the geometry of the one I took the stairs from, it should work, but I have a tremendous ability to mess stairs up
EDIT -- and it doesn't work. time to design my own. But not until tomorrow
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Post by cowboycentaur on Jan 19, 2019 20:10:23 GMT -9
Yeah theyre really gonna make it look good
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 19, 2019 20:27:23 GMT -9
I suppose I could narrow the steps on one side. 90 degrees divided by ten steps... Gonna play with this tomorrow. I think I know what approach I will take, but I don't want that many steps. When you look at the distance between steps on some of those photos, I might reduce it to six steps (15 degrees, right?)
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 20, 2019 6:40:48 GMT -9
Okay, I have my main idea for doing the stairs, and I have a secondary idea that I think may be a better approach, but will require very careful planning. I also am going to do a ladder for those that don't want to go to the bother of the stairs.
Today may be a struggle, though. I thought the driver door of my car was frozen yesterday and was trying to yank it free, to end up slipping on the ice and ending up falling on my bum, with continuing momentum carrying the back of my head to the cement driveway. You know the phrase 'I saw stars'? I did. It was a struggle last night and the struggle continues today.
All of my ideas seem reasonable, but my math is a bit questionable. Patience
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 20, 2019 17:37:03 GMT -9
Spent way too much time figuring out what I would throw the new stairs onto, but realized I could do the ladder version. Here's the new file 
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 20, 2019 18:36:40 GMT -9
Decided not to do a second one of these, but hadn't done mproteau (Paper Realms)'s Tudor Hut from Papercuts, so threw the ladder and stairs onto it. Took a couple photos before finishing the build  
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Post by cowboyleland on Jan 20, 2019 21:48:56 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 21, 2019 6:22:47 GMT -9
Well, when I hit my head, I was wearing my wool Irish walking cap, and the band cushioned the hit. I'm a bit familiar with concussions. I had one back in 2001 that I still have an occasional issue with. Post-Concussal Hypotension. Every so often my blood pressure drops out from under me. I keep a gallon of water in my fridge. I fill my two two-liter pitchers each morning and drink from them all day. Staying hydrated helps prevent blood pressure drops, and this gives me a good way to keep track of how much water I am drinking. Other than my neck hurting, I think I am doing well at this point, but I am trying to be careful.
At this point, I am rather pleased with the coach. Not the design from the illustration, but how well the coach in the illustration is represented in the model. Last night I temporarily placed the ladder and took a photo. Then I removed it and started installing the stairs. In test-fitting, the inner and outer stair walls fit very nicely. I did it this way since most don't seem to like to do mirror prints on the back of parts, but if I were wanting to do this other than just as an exercise, I would print this as a single part, printed on both sides. Less issues with lining up parts and getting the edging done well.
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 21, 2019 7:49:34 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 21, 2019 7:56:13 GMT -9
This is the one specified in the dragon heist module. Looks like it could be a fairly simlle kitbash of a few wagons. Mostly verminkings probably.  I think I did a fairly good job on capturing it. In the final template I posted, there are the parts for either ladder or stairs. The benches have been shortened a tad to allow better access. I still think it is a rather silly overall design. Crenallations and arched windows? But I'm satisfied with it
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Post by cowboyleland on Jan 21, 2019 8:13:31 GMT -9
Your sixth picture looks just like the illustration. I would say you nailed it. A++!
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 21, 2019 8:33:04 GMT -9
Thank you, sir. When I started this, I'd planned on moving on to doing a more typical omnibus. I also thought it would be a good exercise to do a few circus wagons for next month. I really like the new hitch arrangement on this and plan on carrying it over for the circus wagons. A simple appropriate hitch was one of the main things I wanted to accomplish. The other goal was to do a decent set of steps. As a side, circus wagons typically had ladders, so the ladder was another benefit. Funny how it came back to me needing to develop the stairs myself, and the winning ticket on that was what I envisioned early on. Wow, starting at $1.59, AG Smith's Cut & Assemble Circus Parade, www.amazon.com/Assemble-Circus-Parade-Color-Models/dp/0486248615
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 21, 2019 19:06:27 GMT -9
And I'm kicking myself. For some reason, I decided to use brown borders, not black. I was thinking to make the borders less noticeable. Only, when you are trying to pull out various pieces for the circus wagons, it is not very easy to only pull out the borders. For the basic chassis, I need to go back and re-draw the borders. Oops
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Post by Antohammer on Jan 22, 2019 6:45:04 GMT -9
wow!!!! amazing!!!!!
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 22, 2019 19:01:49 GMT -9
Are Waterdeep and Dragon Heist part of the DnD collection?
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Post by cowboyleland on Jan 23, 2019 8:47:23 GMT -9
Waterdeep is a city in Forgotten Realms. The realms have been around for decades. I am not sure when Waterdeep was first detailed. Dragon Heist is a popular new module set in the city. Or so I gather.
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Post by cowboycentaur on Jan 23, 2019 13:42:14 GMT -9
Yeah, its kind of a two part adventure, the first one, set in waterdeep involves breaking into a dragons hoarde amidst 4 seperate crome lords, and is called dragon heist. the second is called dungeon of the mad mage which is a huge mega dungeon, and the setting from the first book provides background and a setting for players to interact with between dungeon expeditions.
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 23, 2019 18:49:52 GMT -9
How much would you want it to look like the last photo? Im not that married to the design, i just saw the request for one, and what i saw on google kind of intrigued me. Would make for some fun gameplay shenanigans i think. Did you pass this thread on to whoever it was that requested it? It's actually much easier to build than the Vardo
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Post by cowboycentaur on Jan 26, 2019 15:53:35 GMT -9
I did, and linked the person to this thread. They were quite grateful!
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 26, 2019 18:04:52 GMT -9
If you want the one I built, let me know. Maybe we can meet in Northtown
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Post by thricebedamned on Feb 7, 2019 17:31:54 GMT -9
I did, and linked the person to this thread. They were quite grateful! I am that person cowboycentaur mentioned. Thank you so much Vermin King! I can't wait to build this and ram it into the front door of the Yawning Portal.
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Post by Vermin King on Feb 7, 2019 18:55:19 GMT -9
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Post by cowboycentaur on Feb 9, 2019 11:25:28 GMT -9
I love it when a plan comes together!
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Post by ignatious on Feb 9, 2019 14:22:33 GMT -9
Vermin King I don't believe I've mentioned this before, but I definitely should have. For a guy who isn't an "official/professional papercraft designer", you do damn fine work.
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Post by Vermin King on Feb 10, 2019 5:32:35 GMT -9
Thank you, sir. Keep in mind, when I pick a project, it is usually after I think it through a little bit and think I know a way to accomplish it. Like I thought the Doctor Who Edsel would have been fairly straight forward, only then I noticed the blasted tail lights and the rounded rear fin. I thought I had it worked out twice now, and even tried a version ignoring the 3d aspect. None of these has worked.
On this one, the only difficult part of the design (other than figuring out that driver box that didn't make sense) was the spiral stairs. I had an idea on making it work, then I tried to take the stairs from three different buses to adjust them to work. Did not work, but with the experience of working with them, I was able to go back to my original concept, and turn it into a design. It also helps that the Victorian Koachwerks (VK's) Coach, Wagon and Cart collection has gotten to be rather expansive. I have developed some experience in that realm.
It's hard to tell what is going to interest me, though, and whether it will make it to completion.
But thank you
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Post by cowboycentaur on Mar 13, 2019 5:04:50 GMT -9
Saw this photo on facebook and just thougut it was neat! 
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 13, 2019 5:23:54 GMT -9
I would love to see more images of that. I take it that it isn't English
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Post by cowboycentaur on Mar 16, 2019 0:07:50 GMT -9
I dont know, there was just the one image.
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Post by cowboycentaur on Apr 9, 2019 13:20:33 GMT -9
Was watching the robert downey jr sherlock holmes movie and saw a double decker!  
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Post by okumarts on Sept 18, 2022 9:58:18 GMT -9
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