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Post by Vermin King on Jun 1, 2019 5:00:12 GMT -9
The theme for this month's HOARD is One Small Step This can be any sort of miniature figure or model on the above theme or feel free to submit miniatures off theme. If you submit a figure, they must include both front and rear art, have a proper trimming outline, and include instructions for multi-part models. Recolors and figure mods are encouraged, and even uncolored designs are welcome. No nudity or sexuality, but bloody gory and horrifying is encouraged. If you have questions about how to design your entries, like formats, resolution, and stuff like that, see the HOARD GUIDELINES in this forum category. Entries for the Hoard will be accepted until the last day of June, 2019. Sorry about being a bit late on this, but I got a little side-tracked last month. I should have posted this a week ago. Oops. But I got side-tracked ... again. I was looking up what I had put together for the LEM, back when I was wanting to get a jump on this. Such an amazing event. The first time a human set foot on a body off the Earth. It's a shame the high-resolution footage is missing. Hopefully one day it will show up again. We could really use some Apollo astronauts, terrain, a rover, and maybe the California film crew that were working on the set (if you are into conspiracy theories) A command module, NASA engineers, and aliens keeping a watchful (but discreet) eye on things. Could be a lot of fun
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Post by glennwilliams on Jun 1, 2019 7:09:19 GMT -9
I remember a joke that the director of the fake footage was so obsessive about detail that he insisted they film on location.
My game Artifact had advanced landers and rovers. I always wanted to make them as minis. Would that be OK?
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Jun 1, 2019 10:20:29 GMT -9
My game Artifact had advanced landers and rovers. I always wanted to make them as minis. Would that be OK? Of course it is okay! If you finish that goblin village and dungeon entrance you started on in 2003, that is great too! The theme is meant to inspire your creativity, not hold you back from what you want to do. Anything is welcome, even if it is highly off-topic.
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Post by glennwilliams on Jun 1, 2019 15:25:53 GMT -9
Goblin village and dungeon entrance in 2003??? No clue. But I'll try to knock out a lander to go with the Soviet LEM I did a few hordes back.
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Jun 1, 2019 16:37:57 GMT -9
Goblin village and dungeon entrance in 2003??? No clue. But I'll try to knock out a lander to go with the Soviet LEM I did a few hordes back. That was a "for instance if you had been working on such a project" kind of thing. I'm sorry I was confusing.
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 2, 2019 8:18:50 GMT -9
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Post by shep on Jun 2, 2019 9:14:31 GMT -9
It's not exactly historical nor scientific, but might this be the hoard to finally finish my Lunar Modular Transport? ...
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 2, 2019 9:23:38 GMT -9
Of course!
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Post by wyvern on Jun 3, 2019 5:47:33 GMT -9
Having trouble finding images of the LEM from all four sides... You might try this PDF of the instruction sheets for the newly re-released 1:48 scale Revell Lunar Module. I'm not sure how accurate these may be though. I recall a magazine article from 1972, whose author was showing how to super-detail the old Airfix Lunar Module 1:72 scale kit specifically as the Apollo 11 craft, and although he'd obtained a large number of NASA photos of the actual craft in flight and on the Moon, the lighting of them was such that you couldn't always tell what was really black, silver or gold. The patterning was quite complex in places, as I recall, and the Revell instructions look simplified to me, but they are at least in colour!
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 4, 2019 18:22:19 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 5, 2019 4:15:32 GMT -9
Goblin village and dungeon entrance in 2003??? No clue. But I'll try to knock out a lander to go with the Soviet LEM I did a few hordes back. If you are going to work on the Lander, I think I will work on a Rover I think that if I were to do a LEM, I'd do the legs like ABC did theirs Of course, the Rover came in later missions... I wonder if the ABC designer used this image to design his legs From history.nasa.gov/ap11ann/kippsphotos/apollo.html
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Post by glennwilliams on Jun 6, 2019 7:56:25 GMT -9
Here's a render of the untextured Soviet Moon Fighter, a development of their moon taxi. The major components are identified. The crew (pilot only in fighter role) recline on couches and use cameras to land--an approach the Americans found problematic in their Ryan Pogo experiment. It's about 3x3x3 and (thankfully) fits on one page with room for assembly instruction.
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 6, 2019 10:53:36 GMT -9
I hope someone is going to do Neil and Buzz ...
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Post by glennwilliams on Jun 7, 2019 7:35:50 GMT -9
Here's my advanced Soviet Lunar lander configured as a fighter with a gun pod and a rocket pod. It can be built as a cargo/transport lander simply by leaving the weapons pods off. I wasn't sure about adding a "Bort number" but what the heck. Their Lunar forces would probably have been air force. It's all done. I have to unfold it then arrange the parts on one page with instructions. I fear the latter might require some to get new glasses. It can be paired with my version of the original Soviet lander from another hoard.
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 7, 2019 7:50:24 GMT -9
That looks very nice. Looking forward to it
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Post by glennwilliams on Jun 7, 2019 16:18:17 GMT -9
Here's the Soviet Eagle. All on one page--whew!
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Post by shep on Jun 7, 2019 22:29:45 GMT -9
Running into trouble with the Lunar Transport again... I just tried to fit the parts onto the Hoard layout, and I won't get the parts of the transport module to fit. They are simply too big, and I don't want to slice them down any further, in order to avoid making the build too complicated. I intend the model to be as simple as possible, since there are already too many parts for my taste. So, I will put the parts for a Lunar Hopper and a Lunar Shuttle together (basically the same sets, with the hopper being the smallest vehicle, and the shuttle being larger by the crew module), which will be the cockpit, crew, airlock, and drive module, as well as the landing gear. Be aware that this is no detailed model of the Space: 1999 Eagle, it is a knock-off Space: 1995 playset for RPGs and tabletop games. The transport module will pop-up in my project's folder, so all parts of the LMT can be built. It just won't have the fancy hoard layout... Btw. are 19 pages (for 5 modules) plus instructions too much for a single hoard post?
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 8, 2019 4:33:21 GMT -9
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Post by squirmydad on Jun 8, 2019 7:28:08 GMT -9
For something that big I ask for a preview pic submitted by the designer. Otherwise, sounds like it has amazing potential.
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Post by ignatious on Jun 8, 2019 7:41:48 GMT -9
That's pretty funny. I was literally looking at this at four in the morning when I couldn't sleep, thinking to myself "I kinda want to build this".
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 9, 2019 18:41:58 GMT -9
I thought this was pretty cool, moonpans.com/vr/apollo11_lm.htm?r=jI wish Armstrong hadn't been a camera hog. He took almost all of the photos, so he isn't in them, except one where Aldrin took a photo of his backside, and then his reflection in Aldrin's helmet
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 10, 2019 19:04:08 GMT -9
Well, I hope to have the Eagle (sort of) done for this Hoard. I have a preliminary Ascent Main Body, a complete Forward Cabin/Hatch and a complete Aft Equipment Bay. I'm having some difficulty with the Fuel Tank, but hope to have it worked out tomorrow night and get a little more done on the Main Body.
If I can get a good handle on the Descent Stage over the weekend, I should be in good shape. It should be able to be a two-pager. A combination of manipulated photo images and my own textures. No, it won't be 'accurate', but for a simplified model, it should be a fair representation. I almost said 'No one would ask what it is supposed to be', but if I said that, someone would
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Post by glennwilliams on Jun 11, 2019 6:16:11 GMT -9
There is a series of short films on the streaming service Curiosity Stream on colonizing the Moon. Really good CGI in between the talking heads. Some great ideas for colonies (including H3 mining and transport to earth). The episodes aren't long 8-15 minutes each.
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 11, 2019 7:34:36 GMT -9
Maybe it is time to show my progress on the LEM Ascent Stage Part 1 has me thinking and rethinking. I want the seam at the bottom, but that prevents me from adding the 'front' antenna above the hatch. I think I will do a part 5 that has the hatch entry with the antenna over it that just glues onto the front. Dunno Part 2 also has me puzzled over whether to build as an open box at the bottom (less space on the page) or to make it a closed box, which will probably make me have to reduce everything Space is going to be an issue because I will probably have to put at least one of the legs on this page, or go to three pages EDIT -- I saw this over at Mauther's Blog, papermau.blogspot.com/2019/06/rescue-helicopter-bk117c-2-diorama.htmlI hadn't mentioned it, but something like the backdrop for this is something I wanted to do for the hoard. That's why I was looking at landscapes, etc. above
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 11, 2019 12:17:03 GMT -9
I decided to go ahead and do the closed box. I am having issues finding a good view of that other antenna that sticks out from the top with the camera Even a very simplified version is something I think is important to the look. Otherwise, I think the Ascent Stage is done. EDIT -- Since this will be seen from above, I think I have a solution This is also the image I used to get the top of the Ascent Module I took the camera, antenna and arms from the image and made the dish round, now I am lengthening the arms based on the connection points in the photo. Hopefully I can get this side worked out, reverse it and connect the two images tent fashion, forming an upside-down V shape, with the camera and dish at the end. Also hopefully so that the upper center arm will extend horizontally. I should be able to get close on the first shot and then tweak it for the final template
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 11, 2019 16:29:33 GMT -9
Time for the Wip Build
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 12, 2019 3:58:33 GMT -9
Don't know what I did on part 4, but it is not right. I'll have to try a different approach.
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 12, 2019 7:44:54 GMT -9
Okay, I am not going to go for the several-sided end piece, but my new piece is going to look similar to this image. I'll try it tonight. I haven't built the final version of the Pinto, so I am going to print the part on that page, rather than printing the new page
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 13, 2019 5:32:28 GMT -9
The black on the round thingy (part 4) is too black, so I'm going to go with the darker color used elsewhere, and the antenna on the front needs to be a tad bigger I also think I'm going to change the part 6 arms slightly EDIT -- Should I do the Descent Stage as a stand-alone? I imagine a scenario where your team is on the moon and are looking for something left by previous explorers. If nothing else, they could be scavenging all that gold foil. Also was thinking I should have an optional rocket nozzle for the Ascent Stage
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Post by Vermin King on Jun 13, 2019 8:26:12 GMT -9
Was trying to find more images over lunch. That equipment pod on the back should be slightly thicker, too, with the three top surfaces slanty. I do think I will make it a tad thicker.
As I picture this as two models - Ascent Stage and Descent Stage - I think I need to be resolved to doing three pages. Even so, this should be considered a fairly easy build. It will be mostly a collection of boxes that are glued together
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