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Post by okumarts on Jun 21, 2011 11:46:06 GMT -9
Just kicking together some ideas for a fantasy line with a 1st ed. D&D vibe. I'm thinking really scary looking green Trolls, Bugbears and classic fantasy characters. Oh yeah, and Orcs with pig noses.
I'm kind of moving towards presenting this as a series of scenario packs: An evening's encounter, miniatures and tiles for $7-$9. Prolly a page of figures and props, maybe all building to a massive adventure/campaign if you bought and played them in order.
Just a snag though.. what game system? I am moving towards Microlite20, but I don't think you can sell microlite20 stuff. I could be wrong about that, I haven't looked into it. Labyrinth Lord is the other alternative, coming closer to what I was considering, but I've been playing a lot of ML20 and it's basically compatible with 3.5 ed. stuff out there.
Any thoughts?
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Post by Dryw the Harper on Jun 21, 2011 12:13:10 GMT -9
Savage World?
Dryw the Harper
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Post by Adam Souza on Jun 21, 2011 14:26:44 GMT -9
Models, terrain, and adventure, and no game stats.
Or
Supply the critter stats in 1 page summaries in mutiple game formats.
D&D, Microlite 20, Blade of Songs and Heroes, etc...
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Post by hackbarth on Jun 22, 2011 5:09:08 GMT -9
I think heroes are more in demand than monsters. My humanoid monster needs where well covered by Jim's figures. They just aren't all available right now.
(but you could release some figures that I'm not compelled to buy, to give my wallet a rest)
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Post by onemonkeybeau on Jun 22, 2011 9:35:45 GMT -9
Hey okumarts!
Great idea!
I love the idea of having a complete encounter made by you!
My game of choice right now is Labyrinth Lord (or the soon to be released Delving Deeper by Brave Halfling Publishing which is basically LL). I think you can get a lot of miles by producing OSR stats for your figs as a base... which then can be converted into whatever system the buyer wants pretty easily.
onemonkeybeau
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Post by okumarts on Jun 22, 2011 11:29:02 GMT -9
Does anyone know what I would need to do to publish something using OSR stats? Or even d20? I haven't done that before and just feeling a bit lost looking around for the process.
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Post by cowboyleland on Jun 22, 2011 15:43:16 GMT -9
For d20 you would have to look at the OGL (Open Game Liscence) Basically anything in the SRD can be use, I think you have to include a copy of the OGL in anything where you use there stuff. My neighbour used to write for Dragon (and others), I'll ask him for advice when I see him again.
C.
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Post by okumarts on Jun 22, 2011 18:36:53 GMT -9
Thanks.
I may still go with the Microlite20 route as it is a rough sketch, but usually enough for a GM to run something reasonable.
I have been in contact with Seth and he's outlined some ways to proceed from here. I'm really hoping this is the path as it will make things quicker for me and spread the word about the microlite system which is JUST about ready to move into a more formal incarnation.
Any other ideas/feedback would be appreciated.
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Post by whiteknight06604 on Jul 6, 2011 11:41:28 GMT -9
I never moved on from AD&D first edition.lol
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Post by kiladecus on Jul 9, 2011 11:13:09 GMT -9
Idk about what youj are looking for, but there are free downloads of d6 (Space, Fantasy, Pulp... every set you can think of). Just saying... this may be what someone else has mentioned, but basically they RPG's that were other games prior to the outbreak of D20 games.
If anyone remembers the Star Wars RPG that featured skills like Str, Dex, Mec, Tech and so forth, and the abilities read 3D6+2 (for example), well it's there! They basically took anything "Lucas" away and left the game system intact.
Just saying for the old-school gamers like myself... for what it's worth.
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Post by kiladecus on Jul 9, 2011 11:18:18 GMT -9
As far as a specific game system goes, I would suggest either offering the figures with detailed descriptions so that the purchaser/gamer could find the stat equivilents for their game system of choice, OR create your own RPG system! You are one talented buck, and I think that the OKUM RPG would be marketable just on you skills alone! You could have it fit within any genre easily once the necessary engine was in place.
Just saying...
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Post by BilliamBabble Inked Adventures on Jul 9, 2011 15:28:35 GMT -9
These sound like a really cool idea. Naturally, the choice of system is perhaps down to the market, really difficult to judge. In terms of retro-games I'm enjoying the simplicity of S&W Whitebox, Basic Fantasy RPG (essentially Basic/Expert D&D) and OSRIC is the big fave of the AD&D-ers - all have fairly easy license systems to adapt, whilst nodding towards the original systems. Sometimes I reckon that although everyone is blogging about certain systems that they're really all playing D&D3.5/Pathfinder *grin* Those Micolite systems look pretty easy for a buyer to adapt to their preferred system. I was really shocked today to discover that there's over 500 products on DriveThru that were tagged as being for the "Savage Worlds" system - so perhaps Kildecus suggestion is good one. Just as a general note about fantasy figures in old school RPGs, I struggle to find non-humanoid adversaries for fantasy gaming and D&D/clones are filled with them. I think the problem is that most of the figures I look at are often troops for wargaming (so the same is true on this forum as well). Bring on the gelatinous cubes, basilisks, krenshars, the owlbears, zombie wolves, hmm, perhaps not the best examples, but you see what I mean. That troll would be a classic, however.  |
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Post by bookman60 on Jul 10, 2011 13:33:39 GMT -9
I for one am thrilled to hear that someone is finally considering a retro
approach to some figures.
As a true first generation D&D'er (as I was actually enjoying D&D before it was published, having lived in Wisconsin back then, 1973-74), I'm trilled that at last I can once again see the beasties that engaged our imaginations...bug bears, owl bear, kobold, goblins, slimes, skeletons, ...anything from the original books or the monster manual would be awesome!
I for one can't get into the newer monsters that my sons are always talking about (as seen in the many plastic D&D minis of recent years). I guess I'm just showing my age b, but thank you for deciding to do these.
I look forward to the set(s).
By the way, I just got my latest set of the Ninja vs Samurai from RPGNow...wonderful! Keep'm comin, I'll be buying all..
KB
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Post by okumarts on Jul 10, 2011 18:48:01 GMT -9
I just find it so hard to find good minis for player characters. This is why I want to make the initial player character set a free set.
KB, thanks for the kind words and picking up the Ninja/Samurai set.
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Post by okumarts on Aug 22, 2011 20:12:31 GMT -9
 Working on this like crazy. |
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Post by Rhannon on Aug 22, 2011 23:25:54 GMT -9
now I can't wait.
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Post by okumarts on Aug 23, 2011 10:31:50 GMT -9
In the works today...  |
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Post by onemonkeybeau on Aug 23, 2011 15:09:11 GMT -9
Oh. My. Goodness...!
This is tailor made for me!!!!!
I truly hope you are planning a whole line of Darkfast figs!
Also, any plans for my favorites (skeletons, undead, and dragons?)
onemonkeybeau
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Post by golem101 on Aug 23, 2011 22:08:15 GMT -9
They're awesome! Can't wait!  |
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Post by okumarts on Aug 24, 2011 10:24:38 GMT -9
Orcs are pencilled, inked and I have just erased the pencil lines (that took about 45 minutes). There will be 12 orcs and a substantial amount of easter eggy goodness in this set. It will be epic!
I'm already trying to think of a follow-up. I'm thinking "Player Characters". Thoughts?
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Post by stevelortz on Aug 24, 2011 10:57:39 GMT -9
Orcs are pencilled, inked and I have just erased the pencil lines (that took about 45 minutes). There will be 12 orcs and a substantial amount of easter eggy goodness in this set. It will be epic! I'm already trying to think of a follow-up. I'm thinking "Player Characters". Thoughts? If you didn't have me hooked before, you'd have me hooked now! I sculpted my first orcs back in 1977, and I used the Hildebrandt brothers for my inspiration. That was also the time when MiniFigs was doing their pig-nosed orcs based on Sutherland's (?) DnD illos. I like these guys, and I can't wait to start building some orc hordes. I know you need to do some player characters and other things too, but I'm looking forward to your goblins, since my orcs use them as bashi bazouk. Have fun! Steve |
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Post by okumarts on Aug 24, 2011 16:48:07 GMT -9
Ok, so I drew these images in the past two days, I inked them and spent most of the day today removing the pencil with an eraser and then scanning them. NOW, I have to colour the darn things...  |
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Post by gilius on Aug 24, 2011 17:35:08 GMT -9
 Another great-looking set of minis!
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Post by dcbradshaw on Aug 24, 2011 19:19:24 GMT -9
Holy crap dude! |
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Post by okumarts on Aug 24, 2011 20:07:53 GMT -9
Colouring proceeds... should be a fun set!  |
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Post by cowboyleland on Aug 24, 2011 20:12:46 GMT -9
Them are scarry pigs!
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Post by Parduz on Aug 24, 2011 22:25:40 GMT -9
The art is great as always, and the figures are funny.... .... too bad that i can't see the Orcs as a swine race. (this is a pure matter of tastes, that don't weaken the greatness of your figures). Is'nt the bow really really short? -edit- Is'nt the whole arm too short? Reasoning to myself: can i really critic such an artist without being a big-head?  |
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Post by josedominguez on Aug 25, 2011 2:09:19 GMT -9
Proper boar faced orcs! Not an Ork in sight Love 'em |
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Post by Parduz on Aug 25, 2011 2:53:54 GMT -9
Proper boar faced orcs! Not an Ork in sight eheh.... well, while i'm not a "that company" fan (i don't play almost any "pure miniature" game) i always liked the look of they orKs. What make Okumart orcs "too piggy" is that they're pink. A gray/brown skin color could have "tuned down" a bit the "Pig-man" feel i have when i look at them. (You know, i live in the italian town - and region - leader in pork meat production/consumption, so i may be already "deviated" ;D ) |
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Post by okumarts on Aug 25, 2011 3:14:21 GMT -9
I know that 'piggy' orcs are a divisive issue in 'retro gaming' so I thought I'd draw my line in the sand and show just how 'old school' I wanted to go. I always thought that they just got greener and greyer as they got older. That's sort of how I'm depicting them in this set. This image probably did more to fire my imagination as a kid than any other the Hildebrandt brothers ever painted.  |
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