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Post by marzman on Jan 26, 2019 16:04:13 GMT -9
looking good!
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Post by berneart76 on Jan 30, 2019 5:31:34 GMT -9
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Post by berneart76 on Jan 31, 2019 7:05:27 GMT -9
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Post by cowboyleland on Jan 31, 2019 8:28:39 GMT -9
Sorry to be "that guy," but: though I love the leaf roof for a structure made out of living trees, once "people" have moved to fabric hangings over a lattice work I think they would find a more practically portable material for the roof as well...
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Post by berneart76 on Jan 31, 2019 8:39:19 GMT -9
Sorry to be "that guy," but: though I love the leaf roof for a structure made out of living trees, once "people" have moved to fabric hangings over a lattice work I think they would find a more practically portable material for the roof as well... Several thoughts I've had along those lines. The walls structure could still be installed around a central tree, or the "fabric" for the roof could be in a leaf pattern. As far as that goes, wood shingles, or clay/ceramic ones could be fashioned into a leaf design as well. There are ones that are shaped similar to fish scales, so why not leaves? Just because they look like "leaves" does not mean they have to be actual leaves. One of my alternate roofing designs in development is based on the shape of pine cone scales.
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Post by cowboyleland on Jan 31, 2019 9:28:45 GMT -9
I think the most logical thing would be a (waterproof) fabric with a leaf pattern on it. Actual nomad yurts use felt, I think. BTW, for "wild elves" I think using the thickest of your Natural Barrier textures as walls for the yurt would be awesome.
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Post by berneart76 on Feb 2, 2019 5:34:36 GMT -9
I think the most logical thing would be a (waterproof) fabric with a leaf pattern on it. Actual nomad yurts use felt, I think. BTW, for "wild elves" I think using the thickest of your Natural Barrier textures as walls for the yurt would be awesome. Well, for fabrics I'm thinking of felt, and have been working on a spider/caterpillar silk overtexture as well. Proper tight woven canvas ( cotton or flax/hemp) is also waterproof for a good part in its own right. Wild Elves I think would use the tents for their portable structures, with some permanent/semi-permanent structures at commonly used sites of woven thickets/copses, even some stone or hollow trees that would have either permanent or temporary roofs. ( The ones with temporary roofs would give rise to people finding "faery rings" when those locations/structures were unoccupied. Along those lines, here's a development of a more irregular heart-shaped floorplan with the thicket/copse walls and a roof inspired by shelf fungi. Design: Build with Textures:
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Post by cowboyleland on Feb 2, 2019 8:00:15 GMT -9
The elves I am picturing are not nomadic, but live a very low impact lifestyle so they use magic (and silk they take from their caterpillar friends when they are done with it) to gently shape the native foliage into shelters. I don't think you should be making models for me, but I might not be the only one who pictures elves this way. Just a thought.
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Post by berneart76 on Feb 2, 2019 9:43:12 GMT -9
The elves I am picturing are not nomadic, but live a very low impact lifestyle so they use magic (and silk they take from their caterpillar friends when they are done with it) to gently shape the native foliage into shelters. I don't think you should be making models for me, but I might not be the only one who pictures elves this way. Just a thought. I'm not specifically making models for you cowboyleland, but do appreciate your input. While our ideas might not be the same, they overlap a bit. I am picturing Elves as nomadic as they are tenders/keepers of natural areas, and when they are done for a period of time in one area, they move to a different area of the environment they are in, whether it be forest or steppes, etc. They might spend years or decades in one area, then move to another that needs their attention. I feel this concept can work with a variety of different mythologies, and am working on a bridge between something original, but still able to tie into existing Tolkien/Alan Lee inspired works as well. I tried to back-engineer some of the Alan Lee works for my design process/thoughts in that if those were how they carved wood/stone, what would have been the original, naturalistic structures that inspired those designs. I've got some ideas as well for plains/steppes sod houses as being a low impact style, which after years , decades, centuries of occupation would resemble nothing other than low, somewhat symmetrical hills. Other concepts include incorporating/blending my built structures with rockfalls, fallen trees, even between the roots or under exposed roots of trees. I think I've come up with an original concept, that I've simplified, but allows for lots of variations and growth with a variety of structures that allows for both low impact, naturalistic designs, and more advanced (?) building techniques ( carved wood/stone, etc.) for more "urban" Elven societies.
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Post by berneart76 on Feb 3, 2019 8:24:03 GMT -9
I think I've figured out my sectional, stackable tree trunk sections. Now I just need to figure out how I'm going to do branches and crowns for them and use them to support buildings... They are scalable, and have a slight offset to them, but since they are round you can have the trunks bend in different directions. Also at some point, as they get slimmer I'll have to do a transition form 12 sides to 6 sides I'm thinking. 3 Tree Trunk sections, starting (in the middle) with a 4" diameter base section. This is a tree that is roughly 18 feet in diameter. Sections stacked, showing the slight offset. On their sides, showing the recessed bases on the upper sections to allow for stacking on top of each other.
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Post by berneart76 on Feb 3, 2019 11:54:08 GMT -9
Now that I have the tree trunk concept on a pth to a workable design, but I think this concept is something people are looking forward to. To get to this though I had to increase the base stump diameter to 7 inches! This needs more development, especially with building varieties and how to make the concept changeable. This concept takes that different structures/rooms are used for differing purposes,
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Post by marzman on Feb 3, 2019 15:29:34 GMT -9
I like the design of the houses sitting off of the trunk! So many people have done the hollow trunk design, something that I doubt the Elves would approve of, this is nicely refreshing.
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Post by berneart76 on Feb 8, 2019 7:49:47 GMT -9
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Post by berneart76 on Feb 26, 2019 20:41:38 GMT -9
No pictures this time, but have been at work on refining textures of different types (fabrics, wood, trees, stone) and reorganizing my filing system for more efficient access while working on elven building layouts, I think I've also got the Sketchup tree plugin working for me, and a process to use it to make foliage and trees as 2D, 2.5D and 3D models. Hoping to soon be releasing Elven buildings in themed releases, encampments, outposts, village/town and city where each theme has a differing combination of textures and architectural developments. .In addition also working on the Fishing Village range, and reworking/resizing the still/distillery model slightly.
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