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Post by Vermin King on Dec 22, 2019 18:17:13 GMT -9
As I work on this, I found some interesting things. Let me show you where I am at on the redesign. Well, it is looking like PostImage isn't overwhelmed as much as they are changing how they handle uploads. That's probably why squirmydad has been posting the BattleCar 3 files as attachments I have been finding that many of the images I use to redesign the OH model are the same ones they used, they just didn't interpret things the same, and they did some things like making room for their name as the back license plate, and trying to make it look less chunky. They used one of the outdoor profile shots to develop the sheet metal, but they grabbed the wheels from the introduction party. Front glass from the Tesla site only tinted blue with a slight gradient. The bed cover is from that outside shot I've posted a couple times, only they didn't interpret the photo correctly (should have referred back to the Tesla site top-down view). I still need to do the nose, and may decide to do the pan under the back, but it certainly looks better to me already, and should be easier to build EDIT-- Oh, and I need to get the proper treads on the tires, which will have full backs, not these partials. I still think I'd like to make full tires that fit into a semicircular opening in the wheel well, so that they can extend out from the body a bit
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 24, 2019 4:48:22 GMT -9
Well PostImage isn't working on Firefox, but it does seem to work on Chrome. When I squared up this photo by rotating so that the bottom of the tires is square, it becomes clear that the front edge of the side is at 90 degrees to the ground, as is the front of the nose. The OH model isn't true, so that they can use rectangular corners. When I fix that, the rest should fall into place Each of the models out there either shorten the hood, to make the corners flatter to the 'grill' or angle the nose to adapt for their version of the corner piece. Or like Wongday, they make a more curved 'grill'. After playing with this for several days, I can see why they change the geometry, but I am going to try to muscle through it and get it closer. Still probably not right, but closer. I had hopes that since the Fold Up Toys version has a closer shape to the corners, that it might be right, but they have the nose shortened too.
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 24, 2019 21:41:13 GMT -9
In spite of it being too chunky and cartoony and the nose being too blunt, I decided I needed to build the fold-up toys model. I was more interested in the geometry than having a great model, but I did want to lose those awful wheels and replaced them with mine (should have swapped in my body moldings and wheel wells, too). And I am OCD enough that I had to replace the vault cover and roof, so I had to replace the windshield and the side glass, but I should have replaced the tailgate, too. Does Tesla do business in any country where they spell it 'TESLE'? Maybe they will make little Testle's Chocolate Cybertrucks. I also left their front end with the big Tesla emblem. But I did lose all the red cut and fold lines, replacing with light gray lines But don't think I hate this one. I don't know why they designed the rear glue tabs to wrap up the exterior instead of underneath. But the front corners are better on this than on any of the others, and the bumpers wrap under the vehicle , so it was a learning experience, which I hope will help me make my model better
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 25, 2019 9:41:29 GMT -9
I couldn't leave well enough alone. Re-sized to match my redesign by wheelbase. Height, width, and overall length are not right and I didn't fix the funky back tabs, nor the odd body textures, nor removing the phrase 'Eat the Rich' from the left rear fender, but adapting my lower moldings and wheel wells and recoloring the bumpers to match my sides should help you to have a fair approximation. If anyone else wants to play with it, here it is I still want my front end to be closer to the real thing, but I think I am going to modify his method for handling the front corners and the bumpers underneath. As for my model, I did get the 3d wheels done today with the correct tread pattern. I hope to have more time to work on it tonight If you need one in a hurry, this is a very quick build
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 25, 2019 14:17:54 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 27, 2019 5:23:40 GMT -9
But, I just remembered an idea I had last week. The tires on these stick out from the body. Not as much as on the Snake Truck and the Buggies, but they do protrude. What would be wrong with making 3d wheels that glue into a semi-circular cut-out in the wheel well? Well, after work last night, I did more work on the Cybertruck front end. No, I didn't learn Blender over Christmas, and even though I have some decent images of the corners, they don't translate well to the model. The parking lights are LED, so they do not show unless they are lit. The front end is a bit sparse on visual interest, so like on many of the models, I made parking lights and adjusted things so that the fold line from the sides is vertical. Basically the part is drawn from scratch. I still have to work out the angle on the bottom edge of the corners to match the front panel that I still have to do. Only I realized that if I do the 3d wheels into wheel well cut-outs, my tires are wrong. I had designed them to be glue-behind wheels and put the tread seam at the top where no one would see it. If I glue them into the cut-outs, that will put them at the top and be very visible, so I need to flip them to be at the bottom. I hope to get the front end done over lunch today, and then I will move onto the vault/bed of the truck. That front end image above is what I used to develop the tires. After squaring up the sample tire, I scaled it to the ones on the vehicle, which gives me the tread width. Then I sampled the tread pattern and overlaid it repeatedly on the tread strip. Then played with it to get it to look appropriate to the tire face. Here's where I am at. Crud. I forgot that PostImage won't work on Firefox.
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 27, 2019 10:28:14 GMT -9
I think I've gone too far to change now, but I think I have this too streamlined. I had made the greenhouse slightly taller than the OH model when I realized the side glass had the same ratios as the profile view glass. Since it slants, it should have been taller, only I didn't increase it enough. The FUT model is too tall in the glass, but I wish I had made mine a tad taller. I had also widened my model by just 50 pixels, but a little. I thought that would make it look a bit 'chunkier', only I think it just emphasizes that the roof should be taller. I fixed the wheels and the front end. I'd hoped to start on the vault/bed/box, but that will have to wait until I get home from our postponed Christmas
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 28, 2019 5:14:36 GMT -9
Well, before I take off for the Christmas/New Year weekend, I decided to do a check on the nose to see if I got it right. No sense designing the lift off back and the vault unless the front end is correct, and it looks pretty good. Keep in mind, this is just the dry-fit, and nothing is edged, and wanted to show the slight width increase, too
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Post by marzman on Dec 28, 2019 9:11:44 GMT -9
Beautiful!
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 28, 2019 9:53:55 GMT -9
I am satisfied with the front end shape, but I think I am going to take the bumpers from the sides and corners and make extensions on the end bumpers to wrap around. When I get back in town tomorrow night, I will change the file. I then can attack the vault. As it stands, this is going to be one of the better models, but having a removable bed cover and actual bed should make this unique
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 28, 2019 12:54:46 GMT -9
I was walking Lincoln, and was trying to run through what other changes would be required if I made the side glass taller. Adjusting the center strip would be straightforward, but I don't think I want to wrestle with changing all the angles and shapes on the front end . This is a chopped version
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 28, 2019 12:58:51 GMT -9
I guess you can't edit on Tapatalk.
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Post by shep on Dec 28, 2019 13:06:39 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 28, 2019 13:20:03 GMT -9
That is Lincoln
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Dec 28, 2019 14:43:14 GMT -9
He's a good looking dog. Breed? Age? Does he know any good tricks?
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Post by shep on Dec 28, 2019 15:51:05 GMT -9
Cool! I have a Lincoln, too... This is the ship of my 1990's FASA Star Trek RPG group: USS Lincoln, NCC-2477-C. It's a Northampton Class Frigate, the game was set in TNG era...
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 28, 2019 17:36:38 GMT -9
He's a good looking dog. Breed? Age? Does he know any good tricks? He's just a 10 year old pitbull. Sit, lay down, shake, pirouette, bark like the world is ending
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Dec 28, 2019 20:16:06 GMT -9
bark like the world is ending Not trying to be political, but it kind of is o.0
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 28, 2019 20:26:43 GMT -9
He is an odd dog. Other than 'sit' and 'shake ' he mostly learned tricks by hand command instead of vocal. And both of those are vocal with accompanying gestures. Extremely well conformed, but only 65 pounds. A slightly reduced scale
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 29, 2019 6:24:03 GMT -9
Adjusting the greenhouse height won't be difficult, but it will change the angles on the hood and front end. As much as I would like to work on the vault tonight, I think I will fix the height issue. Coming off my successful front end is probably the best time to do it with the new geometry, before I forget how I did this one.
But I am not losing this version. I think this one will be the basis for my cyberpunk version
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Dec 29, 2019 7:05:18 GMT -9
Wow! Despite our best efforts, you brought this right back on track! Well done!
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 30, 2019 5:25:58 GMT -9
Well, I was worn out last night. By the time I got home and put away my new Christmas items, got the cats taken care of (and given attention), and checked the DVR status, I had a bit of brain fuzz. Opened the file and created a new file OH revised redesign taller.png and started to turn things around to adjust and was figuring out how to move things around and decided I needed to be of clearer head, so I thought I would build the tires on the dry-fit version above, and the cats wanted more attention, so I gave up for the night
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Dec 30, 2019 10:20:52 GMT -9
Cats are important. What kind are yours?
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 30, 2019 12:14:43 GMT -9
Feral Bootsie, the black one came around while I still had Max and Maxine, and I broke the law bringing Bootsie in when she was small enough to sit on one hand. I heard meowing outside and couldn't see any cats, until I looked onto the roof of the two-story house next door. I have to assume that someone threw her up there since there are no trees nearby. So I got out the ladder and brought her down. I made a feral cat shelter out of a cooler, cutting a hole in the side and using a Folger's coffee plastic can top part and two sides to screw it into the hole (covering the rough edges) giving it a porch roof and a wind break on one side. The whole thing was lined with towels and that was covered with old denim from worn out jeans. The denim was screwed into the plastic. Two wide strips of denim were screwed into the lid and left to dangle over the doorway to keep out some of the wind. That worked until we had several days below -10 degrees, and I let her inside. In spite of a law here limiting pet ownership to two dogs and/or cats. But Maxine died the following September, just short of 21 years old. Max died a couple years later, just shy of 20. Then I got Gracie (GrayC). I take my female feral cats to have them fixed cheap at No More Homeless Pets KC, but Gracie has a scar on her belly, but not where it should be, but they wouldn't x-ray or open her up to find out if she was really fixed, but thought there was an 80% chance she was. Not willing to take a 20% chance of having kittens, I brought her in. Calico has been around longer than Gracie, but she has the heart of an outdoor cat. It has only been over the last few years that she started coming inside during the coldest parts of winter, but she's seven years old, probably nearing eight, and her idea of 'cold' is a lot warmer than it used to be. EDIT -- BTW, over lunch I was working on the truck, only I can't seem to be able to get the front end right. I fix one measurement or angle, and it messes up something else. I'll try from scratch tonight. Part of the problem today was that I accidentally widened the lower part of the vehicle, and then carried that over to the other side. The sooner I overwrite or delete this one the better
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 31, 2019 10:37:16 GMT -9
Starting from scratch was a good idea. Only I can't put all my ideas on one page. My taller version looks pretty good. Looking at measurements and angles, it should be good. I think the approach and departure angles make 3d wheels optional, but almost necessary. Layered side moldings definitely add to appearance, but optional. Setting this up to have a vault/bed would be optional, but should be an easy part to add that would make the vehicle more special, but then you could have a lift off panel to have the vault in the closed position. What I am getting at is that all these things take page space and they won't fit on one page. As it stands, the parts have been pushed out past the cutter-friendly zone. There might be room for the bed part this way, but it will start looking like some of those eastern European models from the 70's and 80's with everything crowded in. I think I would rather have the bed and the bed cover on the optional parts page, along with the moldings. That would leave a lot of empty space. I could do side glass that glues in from behind, but still there would be a lot of space. Any ideas of what would be a good addition?
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Dec 31, 2019 10:43:26 GMT -9
Something to go in the bed?
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 31, 2019 11:05:08 GMT -9
Or the light bar to go with the blue law enforcement version Or the trunk in the bed When I first considered that option, I was trying to decide whether to have the lid that opens onto a box or open to an image of something in the trunk. Or I could accept an earlier challenge and devise a drop-down tailgate. But I want this done...
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Post by cowboyleland on Dec 31, 2019 13:56:07 GMT -9
Let it look like an old school Euro model. There was nothing wrong with those. (Or if there were problems, crowding wasn't the biggest one.)
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 31, 2019 16:18:05 GMT -9
Too late. Basic model is laid out and I started on the vault/bed on the options page. Also finished the Puerta de Alcala
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Dec 31, 2019 17:25:28 GMT -9
Isn't there a small electric vehicke that goes in the bed?
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