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Post by dragnoz on May 12, 2012 1:16:36 GMT -9
some concepts of starships im working on with uptrainfan89 im not to sure about the correct scales of starship models and have tried to make them as small as possible without compromising on the difficulty level of the build. the plan is to have the whole thing modular and the model "blue prints" is a suggestion of what you can build using the components... You will be completely free to build your own designs using the components. These models will not be attached to any gaming system but can be used for any space based game. this particular model first dry run of a blank build is a freighter but i suspect it might be a bit to big. I dont know.. what do you guys think?      |
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Post by uptrainfan89 on May 12, 2012 3:50:40 GMT -9
Wow that looks really amazing, nice work! The scale looks perfect too! ;D
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Post by gilius on May 12, 2012 5:23:01 GMT -9
I have little experience with spaceship models and scales (and none specifically with Wormhole) but this ship looks really nice. As I read about your modular build proposal I couldn't help thinking about this: ecardmodels.com/28mm-cosmo-naught-modular-fighter-system-p-1135.htmlAlthough I'd dare to say that your modules in this ship alone are more varied. And in any case, I love modular designs so the more, the better  |
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Post by uptrainfan89 on May 12, 2012 10:59:40 GMT -9
Lol I can just picture a convoy (not sure if that's the right term) of these freighters cruising through space, being escorted by a fleet of ships with firepower to make sure there cargo safely arrives to its destination and doesn't fall into the hands of pirates, Lol. ;D Edit: I also really like modular designs too. It makes for all kinds of unique ships and the ability to design and build a ship for a certain roll. |
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Post by old squirmydad on May 13, 2012 20:03:07 GMT -9
The scale looks good, to my mind the freighter classes should be bigger and clunkier than warships. Modular packages of starship parts are a pretty cool plan, the more different design packages you have available to choose parts from, then the more potential exponential designs the end user can create. |
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Post by Reivaj on May 14, 2012 3:54:28 GMT -9
They look great ! |
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Post by dragnoz on May 14, 2012 11:01:25 GMT -9
ah nice thanks Gilius, i see its not the first time this has been attempted.. I promise to do something a little different  i uploaded some pics to another thread that shows all the components and a few test builds other than the designed: cardboard-warriors.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=dragnoz&action=display&thread=3839old squirmydad, yes the idea is to release all ships in this modular form and then you have a near infinite combination possibilities of all the various components... plus then release free and uber cheap accessories and booster packs.. here is a better picture of the model (taken in the daylight)  this is all still a work and ideas in progress... |
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Post by dragnoz on May 14, 2012 11:24:42 GMT -9
so what other ships would be good to have?
- Battleship
- Carrier
- Cruiser
- Frigate
- fighters (2.5D)
and?
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Post by gilius on May 14, 2012 12:24:14 GMT -9
Maybe some kind of space station? Or the restaurant at the end of the universe  |
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Post by uptrainfan89 on May 14, 2012 12:56:27 GMT -9
so what other ships would be good to have? - Battleship - Carrier - Cruiser - Frigate - fighters (2.5D) and? I'd say that list looks perfect! Will they be separate sets or similar ones combined into one set? I'm really liking the possibilities of these sets, can't wait to see them all, I know I'm buying every set for sure, Lol! ;D Edit: Also I think I'm going to use your bases for all my ship builds if I can. I really like how they look! |
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Post by dragnoz on May 15, 2012 2:23:05 GMT -9
I'm not quite sure yet how i will package them.
publish them one model at a time as they become available and then when the complete set is done offer a package deal.
or hold out for a few months and offer it as a set.
I tend to release my stuff as I complete them as this gives me a a good indication of the demand and allows me to determine the priorities of my projects.
but im not sure lol... ill see how i get on over the next week or so.
LOL i LOVE that book..... hmmm... yes there might just be a Milliways franchise in the works hehe
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Post by dragnoz on May 15, 2012 6:28:16 GMT -9
possible battle cruiser concept...  |
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Post by uptrainfan89 on May 15, 2012 8:19:58 GMT -9
possible battle cruiser concept... Wow! I love it! It looks awesome and dangerous at the same time, Lol! ;D You have my vote for it!  |
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Post by dragnoz on May 18, 2012 8:00:10 GMT -9
hmm ok waaayy to big and making it smaller will make some of the pieces un buildable... so will be using some of the parts for another model or for the battle cruiser. also... have no idea what kind of ship this actually is:   |
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Post by gilius on May 18, 2012 8:34:21 GMT -9
hmm ok waaayy to big and making it smaller will make some of the pieces un buildable... so will be using some of the parts for another model or for the battle cruiser. also... have no idea what kind of ship this actually is: ... I know: it's awesome Putting it besides some 28mm figures, it's an awesome fighter. |
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Post by dragnoz on May 18, 2012 9:11:09 GMT -9
HA gilius... puting it next to figures never even crossed my mind... lol now it just needs to be printed out a tad bigger and its perfect for 28-30mm scale hehe...  |
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Post by uptrainfan89 on May 18, 2012 9:57:40 GMT -9
hmm ok waaayy to big and making it smaller will make some of the pieces un buildable... so will be using some of the parts for another model or for the battle cruiser. also... have no idea what kind of ship this actually is: Would make another good cruiser looking at it by scale, but if not then I'd say make it in to a 28/30mm fighter and then a copy/retexture of the pods on the side would make a perfect Hanger or Missile pod for the battleship. I also like the little square-ish pieces on each side. (Just an idea tho, Lol.) Can't wait to see the texturing for the Battleship too, I'm sure it will look awesome! ;D Also can't wait to see a concept of a Frigate. I've been using a lot of Frigates in our Campaign/Full Thrust Rules game we started. (Were starting with smaller ship fleets and working our way up, lol.) Also (just another random idea, lol) if you really wanted you could always design an add-on that isn't ship size specific, just stuff like add-on weapons, thrusters, containers, and stuff like that. Then if you did the three main classes of ships (excluding fighters), Battleship, Cruiser, and Frigate, along with the Freighter you'd have endless combinations, Lol. Edit: As you can tell I get excited when it comes to starships, LOL! |
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Post by dragnoz on May 18, 2012 11:41:30 GMT -9
erm.. ok ill be honest i dont know what a Frigate is :S please give me some examples or a descriptions hehe... i mean what sets a frigate aside from another ship? ive googled and have a few answers but i would be interested to know what you guys' take on frigates are
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Post by uptrainfan89 on May 18, 2012 12:26:02 GMT -9
erm.. ok ill be honest i dont know what a Frigate is :S please give me some examples or a descriptions hehe... i mean what sets a frigate aside from another ship? ive googled and have a few answers but i would be interested to know what you guys' take on frigates are This is a quick Definition I found: Frigates are small, fast ships used for patrolling and for screening larger vessels. On their own, frigates do not pack much of a punch, but when operating in "packs", they can often overwhelm larger vessels. Frigates are also capable of entering a planet's atmosphere and landing on the surface. This Definition might help more if you like Star Wars and know some of the ships, Lol: starwars.wikia.com/wiki/FrigateThe Frigate ships do tend to get confusing on there basic role and size. Each referance seems to classify them a little different, Lol. Wormhole also has a Frigate sized ship, for size comparison, Lol. Lol if not it's ok, Lol I'm more than excited with the three ships you've designed so far. Now that I think about it you've checked about 2-3 ships off your list. Your more recent model would easily make a good Cruiser too. That would give you a Battleship/Carrier if you make a hanger bay, Cruiser/Carrier if you decide to use your recent design, and a Freighter. Mix those together with maybe a light add-on set of weapons/comms/parts and you can make almost any ship including a Frigate to even Supership, Lol. Only thing that would be left then is fighters on your list and you've about covered it all, Lol. (Thats just my thought tho, Lol) ;D |
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Post by dragnoz on May 20, 2012 12:25:19 GMT -9
ok the fleet so far... i have one more battle ship that needs cutting building, 1 more frigate sized shiip that needs unfolding and then the fighters to do... then the looonnngg texturing process starts...  |
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Post by Rhannon on May 20, 2012 13:27:21 GMT -9
I hope at least on two different fleets, dragnoz. |
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Post by uptrainfan89 on May 20, 2012 14:50:12 GMT -9
ok the fleet so far... i have one more battle ship that needs cutting building, 1 more frigate sized shiip that needs unfolding and then the fighters to do... then the looonnngg texturing process starts... There looking really awesome so far! I'm really excited about this set and the fleet looks awesome together! ;D Edit: Kinda on Rhannon's idea, if you wanted to do a quick and easy two fleets with out designing new models (since these sets are modable), could just texture them in two colors (kinda like Wormhole did), Lol. (Just a random idea that came to mind tho, Lol.) |
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Post by gilius on May 20, 2012 15:20:11 GMT -9
+1 for the two texture colors/tints |
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Post by kiladecus on May 20, 2012 17:31:47 GMT -9
When I saw that, I thought, "That would be an awesome ERA OF WAR aerospace fighter!" Maybe you could release it as a 30mm fighter (as suggested already) AND a frigate. Todd McFarlane made a fortune by having "repaints." That is MY thoughts on the subject. |
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Post by dragnoz on May 21, 2012 2:55:07 GMT -9
You killing me man , you killing me LOL... well rhan, at the moment this is one faction of the humans. lets see how the interest in these go... if its well received ill be looking at other factions and some alien ones as well... I'm not sure if this will be everyone's cup of tea as there is a bit of construction involved and is not a "quick fix" for instant play. Ha.. waayy ahead of you but thanks so much for keeping the ideas flowing. there is three textures, not just colours... well each texture is a different colour as well but its 3 physically different textures and with the modular way im doing it there is potentially an unlimited amount of design choices when combining the sets. imagine building a "rebel army" that uses parts from all 3 textures to give it that "cobbled together from junk" look.... LOL yes well there is nothing stopping it from being printed out bigger, however i would probably need to adjust the layout on the page and build in some support braces for the bigger pieces... ha.. imagine having the small scale fleet and having a space batle and then crash landing on a planet where you wage "ERA OF WAR" you can then swap to the bigger model and continue with the war on the ground there is about 3 ships that never made the cut as they were to fiddly to build or wrong scale... I might rework them for a future release. Ah almost forgot, I have named this set "Black Sun Wars" I did some research and black sun came up with a number of games and companies but none that does anything like these ships.. Im also now on final design and concept lock-down mode... here is the final 6 sets that will make up the first fleet.  Now begins the torturous task of texturing... will take a month or so... |
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Post by uptrainfan89 on May 21, 2012 6:28:17 GMT -9
Lets see how the interest in these go... if its well received ill be looking at other factions and some alien ones as well... I'm not sure if this will be everyone's cup of tea as there is a bit of construction involved and is not a "quick fix" for instant play. Bright side is if it doesn't end up being "everyone's cup of tea", it looks like your easily set up to do mod-able 28-30mm vehicles and such for minis, Lol. (Always a popular topic it seems, Lol.) That and with the way your planning on texturing the starships you would easily have 3+ fleets and an unlimited amount of possibilities for just the one set, Lol. ;D Ha.. waayy ahead of you but thanks so much for keeping the ideas flowing. there is three textures, not just colours... well each texture is a different colour as well but its 3 physically different textures and with the modular way im doing it there is potentially an unlimited amount of design choices when combining the sets. imagine building a "rebel army" that uses parts from all 3 textures to give it that "cobbled together from junk" look.... That definitely sounds awesome! I would have been happy with one color but hey the more the merrier, LOL. ;D Ah almost forgot, I have named this set "Black Sun Wars" I did some research and black sun came up with a number of games and companies but none that does anything like these ships.. I like the name, it sounds really catchy, Lol. Im also now on final design and concept lock-down mode... here is the final 6 sets that will make up the first fleet. Now begins the torturous task of texturing... will take a month or so... Long texture time, all well, Lol I'm patient and this set will be well worth the wait! It will look awesome! ;D Edit: Also, mostly just curious lol, what all weapons are planned or to be textured on the ships? |
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Post by old squirmydad on May 21, 2012 8:24:04 GMT -9
"The torturous task of texturing" Yeah, I know what you mean. There's always a middle part in the process for me where everything looks like poo and I just have to trust to technique that it'll look better at the end. All the best! |
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Post by kiladecus on May 21, 2012 10:38:55 GMT -9
That's why I use Shuffler. All the textures are done already, and I have NO texturing ability!  |
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Post by dragnoz on May 21, 2012 22:17:02 GMT -9
 i wish i can say i have a technique... i tend to keep slapping it on till i get a half decent texture hehe... but still... i find it a long process with little to show but weird disjointed blocks on the screen... its usually this part of the process that drives the wife mad for some reason.. Hmm dont know about shuffler, just googled it and it seems to be mostly to build terrain and such. I tend to buy stock and then mod the living daylights out of it. There is some really good cheap second life texture sellers out there... |
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Post by dragnoz on May 21, 2012 22:32:40 GMT -9
ok this is where i need some help and advice... I dont really know much about starships and weapons.
So a list of suggested weapons and arrays will be most welcome! even some stats with the weapons could be usefull...
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i wish i can say i have a technique... i tend to keep slapping it on till i get a half decent texture hehe...